Talk:Garkon

Gurgurdo
What has been sourced from Bhasin 2004? TrangaBellam (talk) 16:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Is Ghargurdo/Gurgurdho/Gurgurdo an official hamlet of Garkon? I doubt. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * , what are the coords of this place? TrangaBellam (talk) 16:55, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * OSM location. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:08, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ty; for reasons unknown to me, GMap overlay the entire area with a pixelated mask! Expectedly, opposite Chulichan and about 7 miles away from Garkon. I cannot understand why the hamlet is not mentioned in the official list! TrangaBellam (talk) 17:58, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Shaw puts it ("Gragra") in the Garkon-Darchik group. So, I don't think it ever belonged to Chulichan. (Recall that Chulichan had been annexed to Baltistan. It somehow fell on the Indian side in 1947-48.) My guess is that it is presently in Darchik because there is a road connection to it. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:57, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

The shows the borders between the tehsils. (Need to enlarge a lot to find them.) It puts Garkon in the Leh tehsil and Darchik in the Kargil tehsil!

And Kargil included, not only Ganokh, but all the way till Khaplu! The political frontier had nothing to do with the ethnic divisions. It appears that Zorawar Singh "annexed" all this territory when he went to invade Baltistan, whereas Skardu was left under an heir (Mohammad Shah).

The Pakistani response to all these dilemmas is:

So it was the "ceasefire agreement" (which was totally unfair to Pakistan) that divided the country, not the war! The war should have logically continued until "Baltistan" was made whole again. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 06:59, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Also in the 1916 map is the label "GRAGARDO" for the valley of the Yaldor Nala (or perhaps to the mountains there). The Indian military has further distorted its spelling to "Gragario" and "Gragrio" . -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:43, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * So, when people say Tsewang Namgyal and Ali Sher Khan set the border at "Grugurdo", it does not necessarily mean the village of Gruguro. It could well be the Grugordo valley. That would mean the Kargil–Leh boundary in the 1916 survey map dates back to that time. (The border wasn't altered by Sengge Namgyal because the Skardu rulers were his cousins and, after him, Ladakh was never strong enough to fight Skardu.) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)