Talk:Garry's Mod/Archive 1

Security concerns
could someone tell me where the info from "security concerns" comes from? it seems kind-of one sided against garry -mysekurity 05:53, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

All objects?
"The player can bring items into the sandbox by using the spawn menu. This menu gives the player access to every single physical object and character ragdoll in the game." Is it EVERY object? Sombody should find out. I really don't think every object is in the spawn menu.

Isn't just being able to edit everything a bit, wierd!?
 * Yes, I believe all objects are in the spawn menu. Ortzinator 17:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Some objects, such as the chess set (seen in the HL2 chapter "Black Mesa East"), and other random things aren't availible. But about 95% (just a guess, mind you) of the items can be spawned, so it doesn't matter. --Chris16447 19:13, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * GMod Plus adds a huge number of items not listed in the standard GMod menus, but I don't recall if the chess table is one of them or not. But a clean install of GMod does leave out a lot of potential objects, but does include, as far as I know, every object with physics properties. Errick 04:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, one can manually add spawn code for any object one wants. All models within HL2 are accessible trough Gmod.


 * You can spawn objects that aren't in a spawn list by clicking the small folder icon on the left side of the spawn menu. This lets you browse through all the available props. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr. Altaco (talk • contribs) 02:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC).


 * There are thousands of objects, the ones listed in the default spawn menus are the ones most likely to be used for posing, building contraptions etc. You can browse and search through every available object to you in the browser (folder icon.) Daveoh 19:07, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Any object. Although the spawn menu may not contain all of them, you can still access them from the file-view. SaderBiscut 02:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Culture Section
I believe that the culture section is completely based on POV and does not reflect the true nature of the mod community. It is true that when you first start up the game, your name is MingeBag, but it really is pointless to say that just because your name is MingeBag that you will be kicked from the server. That may be the author's opinion, but it certainly is not fact--Deemo 17:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree, the mod is about goofing off and making stuff, it isn't counterstrike.

Also agree, the religion section needs to go too.

It's not about goofing off anymore, now it has competative and fun multiplayer games. Ledmonkey 21:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

The religion section is stupid and has to go unless some proof can be shown. NeoRicen 04:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a very stupid section. It should be removed. --Snkcube 06:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Definitely true. Most servers I go to kick MingeBags, or at least check if they're an intelligent player. Also, most Garry's Mod comics and movies make jokes about MingeBags, which have their own metaphoric form as a Kleiner model with missing animations. In conclusion, please do not say to delete a bit of information just because you didn't already know it. I have probably used Garry's Mod far longer than you, and trust me, the term is very common now. --Katana314 21:06, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Culture removed
I removed the culture section, because it was unencyclopedic and can be summed up as "new players create problems." Which probably isn't even true for most of them. Sum0 22:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Picture
We should get a new picture for the article heading or remove the one that's currently there, It's from an old version and isn't a great represntation of what gmod can do. Tricadex 05:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The one just down that one could do it.

Page move
The name of the mod is Garry's Mod, and not GMod. GMod is just an abbrevation... can someone move the page back? --Bergha 20:33, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

update: I'll just do it myself --Bergha 20:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

apparently since my account is new (just registered), I can't move pages. Can someone else move it to Garry's Mod for me? --Bergha 20:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Alternate Game Modes
The article says, "While it does not have any actual gameplay value in a traditional sense...". Garry's mod DOES have some game modes, including melon racer, birdpoo, build to the top, build bridge, soccer, fort wars, and many others. All of these game modes are included with the mod, and have valid goals and objectives. I think the article should mention these game modes, and the aforementioned sentence should be edited, or more well-defined. It's a little vague to say "gameplay value in a traditional sense". --Smileman66 19:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Map List?
Don't you think it would be nice to add a list of maps?

--VonV 01:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)VonV

There's pretty many of them. But possibly some examples to show how it can look like. --Drakilor 07:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Lua Virus Section
NOTE: Someone has deleted the entire virus section, saying "it was dumb". This must be fixed, as viruses can be a real problem and the editor was obviously someone of dubious status.

The "Common Viruses" section is subject to change as new viruses is produced, and will probably change over time as they spread at different speeds. I suggest changing it to a list of example viruses and remove "copies" (3 scripts that grants remote access to clients is not neccessary in that case). --Drakilor 07:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Lua viruses are no longer of any consequence, due to the fact that there was a steam update that prevents lua from harming your computer or garry's mod app. The lua virus section is only applicable for Gmod 9. --Mr. Altaco


 * And? - I use version 9 (Since I don't intended to buy the premium version). If one day someone invented an operating system that was 100% virus proof, you wouldn't retroactively delete all the articles on computer virus' because not everyone uses the same operating system. Before now I'd never heard of lua virus' on GMod and now I'm still none the wiser. --85.62.18.3 (talk) 13:07, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Some Garry's Mod Concerns
Lua viruses are a major problem, so check your Lua/Init folder regularly, and if you find something you or TEAM GARRY didnt put their, you should probably open it with a text program (i.e. wordpad or notepad) and erase it, then save as a .lua, and make it read only

This is pretty much all you need to do

May i say that this is only a problem with version 9.0 and up

Here are some links to some usefull lua ANTI VIRUS programs, and links to two lists of lua viruses:

Anti-Virus links:

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=134578-GAV

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=132785

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=155385&highlight=filecheck

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=132785

http://www.gmodsecurity.com/

lists of Lua Viruses:

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=158549&highlight=Lua+Virus+List

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=171370

Xluavirus 08:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Creators of lua viruses
I only know his facepunch forums name, its JetBoom, or JetBoom2, and he has created the racehook lua viruses, he is a threat to Lua users everywhere, and must be stopped, if you have any additions to this, or know any other viruses creators, add them to this section, please
 * Actually, JetBoom is a she. And allegedly a very nice person, who is skilled at lua and released several successful gamemodes. --80.42.159.42 20:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Jetboom is a male. He asked some of his friends to spread rumours that he was a woman.  Aside from creating racehook and occasionally being mean to forum members, he has made several great SWEPs and Gamemodes, and currently runs two servers that host several of his fun games.

JetBoom is a he.

He runs Noxiousnet.com too and all the servers (Zombie Survival is awesome)

Edit
Gone through the text, and tidied quite a bit. Removed repetiton, re-organised sections, added references where possible. Haven't changed the detail of GMod 9 or 10's tools, for example but made some of the English clearer. Hope you guys think it's OK. I think the article is somewhat improved. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the tools in GMod would like to have a go? Obviously, there is no point in re-producing the official GMod Wiki though... Major Bloodnok 16:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

My knowledge of Lua scripting and viruses is limited, so there is room for improvement here I think. Major Bloodnok 16:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Just gone through the text again. Removed a sentence about HL2 compatability as it essentially repeated itself (GMod needed HL2, CS:S and HL2:DM to work properly, although it was possible to make it operate with textures etc missing, which is evidently not working properly in the accepted sence). Also a few relatively minor tweaks (Garry's Mod ---> GMod throughout the body of the text for example) Major Bloodnok 07:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

SWEPs
Under SWEPs, the laserdance gun is incorrectly referred to as the "FAMAS gun"--Raznor 18:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Opps my fault. Sorry i was tired that night. Whatever, the gun is the CT equivilent of the FAMAS gun in Counter Strike Source --Nukethewales 13:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Lots of changes
Did a lot of MAJOR changes here, corrected some things, added a lot of information on GMod 10, changed some things under 'GMod 9 Mods' and tools, cleaned it up.

Deleted info about 'objects such as buildings being imported from hammer', as it was misinforming. --Stylus 15:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Advertising my site(s)
Is it ok to put my website at the bottom of this page or is advertising disallowed? Joe Mariachi 21:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Disallowed. Wikipédia is an online encyclopedia, not some kind of forum.


 * Unless you can convince the Wiki Community that your site is very relevant to the page (which happens to be Garry's Mod) and provides facts and information about it and not some product or unrelated information, then yes. Otherwise, it will be considered advertising, spam, or flat out vandalism. Don't. DEMONIIIK 05:32, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
The article needs cleanup. A BIG one. And also, some fact confirmation:

"However, there will be no Garry's Mod 11, because Garry's Mod 10 is the final version."

Where did you get this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.196.101.78 (talk) 16:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

Garry's Mod 10 *is* final as far as version numbers go (or so Garry said...), but updates will still be released.

I don't see why a Gmod11 can't be done however.

87.113.4.171 16:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Technically, Garry's Mod is already up to version 16 or so, but with the retail version, there isn't a version number like old versions, it's just Garry's Mod now, and will be for the foreseeable future. The Decryptor 18:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Requested Edits (since I'm still a wee child in the Wiki world)
Just minor changes... Perhaps on that "LUA Viruses" section, someone could be so kind as to take that last snide remark off? The one going something like "[...] but people still download .lua files from servers for gamemods and such, thus proving Valve failed and lied." It may not say that but the author of that statment may as well have written that. Please change it to something more like "[...] but people still download .lua files from servers for gamemods and such, so some Lua viruses still exist, but are very hard to spread." Perhaps, also add a sentence saying that lua viruses don't affect the computer in any way, but can make a Garry's Mod play expierence annoying and at most corrupt gamefiles, assuming they aren't being used at the moment.

Also, could someone change "Garry's Mod Retail" to something less 'ugly' like "Garry's Mod (retail version)"? Please? I only ask this because who calls a game "GAME NAME RETAIL!!!" (unless the game is ABOUT retail... anyway).

Random requests done. --DEMONIIIK 05:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

The "free download" part
Wouldn't it be better to link the download to the official website, not download.com? (the official download link still works) Ericlaw02 10:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Mistake with magnetize tool
Under the magnetize tool for gmod retail in the article, it states that it only sticks to props, and does not pull. This is incorrect. There is a checkbox labled "no pull." when checked, the prop has no pull. when unchecked, the prop pulls things towards it. Mr. Altaco 02:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Get rid of the gmod 9 section
Gmod 9 is old and now totally unsupported! Why is it the better part of the wiki page? Garrys Mod 10 should be the main topic. Or mabey they are 2 topics, in which case they should be seperated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.230.170.210 (talk) 22:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

Have moved the Gmod 9 section down the article - given that the software is still freely available, I think its inclusion here is still valid. As it is not the most recent version of the software it is less important => lower down the article. I removed the sentence in the pop culture section which had no citation to back up its claim about memes, and therefore tag as well. I also removed a non-encyclopedic section about viruses and lua:

"So, unless an established GMod Lua scripter decides to lose their reputation (since usually, .lua scripts are highly criticised by the harsh video game community until they make good stuff that everyone wants), most .lua scripts will either be at least slightly obvious to the average GModder that they have viruses in them, or they will be 100% clean, and at most, glitchy (but only because of inexpierenced users or weird updates through Steam that conflict with code, so nothing bad or frequent...)"

Too much editorialising and lack of citation here - there may be a point to be made, but it can be put in a better way. Major Bloodnok 20:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Add Facepunch to Links.
Someone should add the facepunch link to the links section, since it is the official forum and a supportive community. http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/

Done and done. --Xinjinbei 18:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Oops, it was already done. Undone and undone.--Xinjinbei 18:27, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Not worth it. Okrainets

Day of Defeat is not a mod
The image with the american soldiers preparing to attack a german AA postion is made with models from Day of Defeat: Source, which is based on the HL2 engine, but it's still a standalone game sold in stores. DoD was used to be a mod to Half-Life, but DoDS has never been a mod. 217.211.211.182 17:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Wire Mod
One of the really cool Garry's Mod addons that I think should be listed is Wire Mod, which adds electronic components to the kinds of things you can spawn. --CCFreak2K 14:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I edited out the image links and related descriptions (they broke). --CCFreak2K 11:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I have checked out this addon, and it's absolutely worth mentioning. I was simply stunned by the abilities it adds to Garry's Mod. Here's a 'definition' from the Wire Addon Wiki: "[...] This mod allows the user to spawn gates, sensors, inputs and outputs and wire them together so a working computer-like contraption can be made in Gmod10. The gates are connected with wires, which are beams that act as a medium to carry the output from one wired entity to an input on another." Alkalu7y 16:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Lua/Virus Section Deleted by someone again.
I'd replace it and all but I'm extremely new and have no clue how to fix it I have the text and all though so it should be no problem to whoever can do that.

--ExplodingAcorns - Exploding the Acorns in life. 17:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

This section talks too much about Gmod 9 compared to Gmod 10
There has been a lot of new game mods such as Zombie Survival and The Stalker added, while none of this is mentioned. I think Gmod 9 Mods such be turned into Gmod Mods. undefinedOBEY STARMAN 17:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, and would go ahread adding things, but I'm not sure of a good way to organize it. Cubed05 02:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * On reflection, maybe it's time to substantially trim Gmod9 - I'm not sure it's inclusion in such detail is still relevant afterall, except that maybe to point out how it helped to increase the popularity of Gmod.


 * Given that it's features are very similar as GMOD in it's current form, a detailed list of features is surely redundant.


 * Accordingly I will cut it down to size, and replace the pic which has been removed.Major Bloodnok 15:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Lack of support for the free version
I have noticed that there is now a complete lack of support for any free versions of gmod and Garrys own web site wont even link to a free version anymore, and that any of the old free versions will not even run anymore in Steam. Is this the case? Has it turned into a "pay or stop playing" model? If so, it should be added right near the top that gmod has turned from a free modding community item into a commercial enterprise JayKeaton 07:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * They won't run, because it's unsupported, and newer steam updates have broken it, there are work around though (which only delays the inevitable) 60.240.224.231 09:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * All free versions are completely unsupported. I don't think Valve deliberately meant to break it in a Steam update, but neither Valve nor Garry will fix any problems. Cubed05 00:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The logic isn't "pay or stop playing", $10 is a meal at mcdonalds, and there is more - and more diverse - free content for gmod10 than there had ever been for gmod9. People who expect gmod9 to be kept current at no cost to themselves are looking for a free lunch. 121.45.46.27 12:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * This is correct, "[...]$10 is a meal at mcdonalds[...]" is what made me buy Garry's Mod 10. The mod is worth $10, it's a small amount of money. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alkalu7y (talk • contribs) 11:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Garry's Mod 9 is still in the mods list on Steam website. There is no download link, though. Alkalu7y 12:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

What happened to this article?
What happened? This article used to be really long and filled to the brim with information, but now it's been super condensed. Actually now that i think of it, the article had a lot of irrelevant stuff in it. -User:Color-Copycat �Preceding comment was added at 04:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

People thought it contained too much information apparently. 65.10.102.36 (talk) 04:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I feel we should revive this article. There's a wealth of information that can be used, and I feel the overview section can be retailed to be like http://www.garrysmod.com/about/ and even grab information from Garry's own blog http://garry.tv/ - There are also plenty of unofficial sites documenting tutorials and aspects of Garry's Mod. All of which can be used to verify each other. ElliottB (talk) 18:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

SVG Logo?
I added an SVG version of the GMod logo to Wikipedia, but as I'm new I can't add it in myself. Do you think it would be useful to use it and if so would someone add it instead of the PNG? The filename is Gmodlogo.svg - thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yohanuk (talk • contribs) 17:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Image changed. Thanks for the SVG. Alkalu7y 16:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Community Links
Would anyone object to the addition of links to Community sites in the External Links section? It did at one point read <!- DO ADD new links without discussion-> A number of links were added, but all, including my own, were removed by another user.

Bradfirj92 (talk) 15:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Wikipedia is not a collection links. Only links that were offical were kept.   Compwhiz II ( Talk )( Contribs )  04:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Awards
The links in the Awards section are all broken. Can anyone find some replacement links or something? Weeliljimmy (talk) 21:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Semi-Protection
Why is it on again? --CCFreak2K (talk) 06:34, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Because of vandalism   Compwhiz II ( Talk )( Contribs )  21:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

History and Lua
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfu Maybe someone should write up about the history of GMod and it's support for Lua Littlerippa (talk) 08:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Culture
While the argument over why MingeBags deserve to be so heavily ridiculed is still unclear, with supporters of newcomers to the game on one side, and the veteran players on the other, it still draws in fans all over the world every day. Whether they are ridiculed or not, they will eventually pass through the MingeBag stage, and either become decent experienced players, become havoc-enducing problems, or true veterans with skill and manipulative control enough to create some of the wonders in the Garry's Mod world. Nobody has ever started this game as an immediate professional player, although some are more civilized, more mature, and more intelligent than others.

signing for archiving   Compwhiz II ( Talk )( Contribs )  18:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Bugs
Self explanitory, but the whole "steam update messing with gmod" definatly needs to be adressed. (TheTrueMrJack) *Does not have profeile yet*

-HDR update cause a line to go across the screen and destruction of modcache. -Friend Newwork destory all tools.

signing for archiving   Compwhiz II ( Talk )( Contribs )  18:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

several items left out of spawn menu
as far as ive seen, up to 100% of the items (i.e. chess set) in HL2 are effects. the original spawn menu misses up to approximately 65% of the items in HL2. gmod+ v1.6 adds at least 30% of those missing items to spawn menu SOMEWHERE. as far as i know, all effects are their, now, meanning that 100% of the items, atleast, are not spawnable. go play HL2 after typing: sv_cheats 1 in the console, and look at everything you see, and type: impulse 203 while looking at it, to delete it (if it is an object) if you cant spawn it in gmod, its missing.

signing for archiving   Compwhiz II ( Talk )( Contribs )  18:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

gmod is released
gmod has been released could you please remove the unreleased tag from that section

Yeah it's been released remove the tag!

signing for archiving   Compwhiz II ( Talk )( Contribs )  18:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Download link?
Maybe we could put a download link(s) to GMod 9? I have to say it's a real PITA and none of the official sites make it obvious where it can be obtained.Smackheid (talk) 03:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Only Needs A Source Game???
It seems GMod actually requires the Source SDK. A teacher of mine got the free Portal: First Slice pack which has lots of Source games, but not the SDK, so he can't get GMod. MeTheGameMakingGuy (talk) 12:45 pm, 22 February 2008 (GMT +10) —Preceding comment was added at 01:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

--

Portal: First Slice will not work, Garry's Mod requires a purchased Source game. Bradfirj92 (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Not happy with this article
I dont feel the community section needs tweaking, this is a place to advertise your modifications people, even if it is implied. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shougunner (talk • contribs) 12:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Release date
Anyone remember when the original mod version was first released? I assume it was on 2005 but exact date would be nice. --Mika1h (talk) 21:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion ridiculous
This game is a fantastic display of the potential of the Source Engine, what idiot would delete an article like this? Jesus Christ, "advertising"? Fine then, let delete every other commercial name/product/purchasable on Wikipedia. McDonalds? ADVERTISING! Dove? THE ECONOMY'S PROPAGANDA! XBox360? HEAVENS NO! What will we do? Completely ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.250.6 (talk) 23:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. In my opinion, I would say Garry's Mod is the best $10 I ever spent over Steam. It really displays the capability of the engine and is incredibly expandable; I have over 50 addons that really make Garry's Mod what it is. I am actually thinking of expanding the article soon, with examples of the different game modes you can play, etc.


 * There are a lot of articles written way more like advertisements than this one. the article on Adobe Media Player sounds like it was written straight from Adobe's advertising department.

Why was the page deleted?
it wasn't advertising, this game (It's hardly a mod anymore) has sold 100k+ copies on steam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.49.173.11 (talk) 22:56, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Its been sorted, the page is back and the asshole who did it is banned. --81.1.104.145 (talk) 23:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

URLs
Is it really appropriate to have a link to Facepunch Studios? Seeing how it's a fansite (I think.) It doesn't seem to merrit having itself in with the official sites. Sparky-sama (talk) 10:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it's official.   CWii ( Talk  13:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes it is appropriate imbecile, its the main forum. --81.1.104.145 (talk) 23:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Manhack
The link to "manhack" in the first section (Overview) doesn't work :( Scottdavies (talk) 14:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * page got redirected.   CWii ( Talk  18:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Disagree with Deletion
I disagree with the deletion of this page. It is too well known to not have some sort of entry on wikipedia. Just voicing my opinion

--Sponge! (talk) 23:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Working on it...   CWii ( Talk  00:06, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Who edited to say that community THINKS it's gmod 11?
It IS gmod 11. Even Garry says it's Gmod 11.. Get your ******* facts right before modifying a page!


 * WP:CIVIL   CWii ( Talk  15:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Please watch the language. Also, Garry Newman calls it Garrys Mod 11 as a joke. This was confirmed on the official forums by the man himself. It is still officially Garrysmod 10, and will stay so until a new garrysmod that has been completely overhauled and redone is produced. - 18:59, 8 July 2008 (GMT)

Sensored for maturity values. Changed it to say that version numbers were dropped for ease. Case closed.


 * I think the reason number "Garry's Mod 11" came up is because every so often Garry releases a major update to the mod which brings it to the next version of the Source engine. For example, in January of 2008 it was updated from the Episode One engine to the Episode Two (Or "Orange Box") engine allowing things such as motion blur, updated water effects, etc. But eiter way, it's still just "Garry's Mod". When he brougt the mod from v9 to v10 (the "Paid" version you buy off of steam) it was officially named Garry's Mod (with no version number). Cody-7 (talk) 19:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

playermodel lulz
I get really sick and tired of all the people who ask how to change your playermodel. Here it is.


 * go to options
 * go to options/player
 * select your model
 * die and respawn as your chosen model.

There. tell all no0bs to come to this page. If anyone wants this deleted, go to my talk, and within the next week, it will be deleted. Also, stop being really mean, CWii. I semi-agree with Cody-7, guys on GM are usually a bunch of mingebags, but most mean well. MidKnightHunter (talk) 16:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * This won't be added to the article because this wikipedia isn't a game guide. Also, Talk pages are for discussing how to improve the articles, not for the article's subject itself. But I'm going to act in Good Faith and hope that this was a suggestion for the article.   CWii ( Talk  17:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Memes and stuff
Why is Facepunch, a website dedicated to a mod program for a sci fi game, full of 4chan memes and 4chan refrences? --79.74.75.48 (talk) 17:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm guessing it's the same reason why Wikipedia is filled with controlling, ignorant, think-they-always-know-better-than-you, think-they-are-cool-because-they-have-a-ton-of-wikipedia-barnstars obsessive contributors who won't let anyone change an article for the better (I've run into a lot of them). Every community attracts various idiots and because many Facepunch users are young, they can be a bit immature. -- Cody-7 (talk) 20:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I hate most Wikipedian-barnstar-bastards too! We should form a club! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.160.194.194 (talk) 21:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't like the community Cody? Take your bullshit elsewhere.   CWii ( Talk  03:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is about a free repository of information anyone can access. A large part of the community thinks they know better than others and it causes real problems. It turns Wikipedia into a not so fun place to be. We should drop this now, anyway, this is a talk page for a specific article, not about Wikipedia's community. I would "take my bullshit elsewhere" but I refuse to be scared off by trolls on Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody-7 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * 4chan memes are not 4chan memes. They are internet memes. They are a part of the internet. Also, many people who go to 4chan also go to Facepunch. See: Encyclopedia Dramatica > Facepunch CompuHacker (talk) 01:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That entirely depends. Some things originated elsewhere and moved to the *chans but some of it did originate and propagate there before anywhere else, although unknown to the average *channer, a majority of the 'memes' originated in places like Ebaums and SomethingAwful before '4chan' even existed, and found their way there. But I suppose this is irrelevant to this article so I'll shut up now. 75.149.203.217 (talk) 17:14, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

New Source game
Please add the following in the appropriate section:

List of games that meet the Source engine requirement

Left 4 Dead - released 17th November 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cit (talk • contribs)
 * Done. -Unpopular Opinion (talk · contribs) 12:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Left 4 Dead is treated like a non-source game in Steam, has no SDK and does not load into Garry's Mod. I'm pretty sure you cannot use it to run gmod with. Should be removed.

'Non-violent'
Concerning Thibbs' edit, Garry's Mod ISN'T a 'non-violent' game. There is blood, killing, etc. Since it isn't editable we'll have to deal with false information.

I am not spy (talk) 16:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually it's just semi-protected. And, yes, it's a non-violent game. It's possible to kill people, since it's the same engine and you can enable it, but it's definitely not the main intent of the mod. - Zero1328 Talk? 23:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Exactly. You wouldn't call Little Big Planet or The Sims a 'violent game' just because it's entirely possible to bring death on a character, because the goal of the product is in LBP's case, platforming and puzzlesolving, and in The Sims case, building and living a normal life for your character. Just as Garry's Mod is designed for creative thinking and building assorted things with the in-game editor. 75.149.203.217 (talk) 17:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

And there isn't that much blood - just an effect that disappears instantly. And that's a part of the games Gmod works with, rather than a part of Gmod itself. The intention of GMOd is not to be violent. So there. Kit (talk) 13:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Possible personal-advertisement
"The Phoenix-Storms Model Pack is a pack which includes many geometric objects (such as cylinders, cuboids and plane parts) to allow more precise building."

This seems to me like a personal ad for a third-party product. I recommend it be removed. It doesn't seem to be truly notable, and appears to just be another mod pack in a sea of thousands that litter Garry's Mod. Discuss this here, but I'd remove it quickly as it doesn't seem to have any right to be here and might as well be vandalism. 75.149.203.217 (talk) 17:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. It's one of the more commonly used mods among online servers, and so I think it should be kept. 01:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.6.89 (talk)

Wire and PHX are considered integral parts of Gmod as far as I'm concerned - no server I've ever been to is without them. And because they're both free, there's no more advertising in those statements as the entire article is for GMod, which costs £5. Kit (talk) 13:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Help?
How do I save something I've made as a .mdl file so that I can spawn it whenever in the "Q" menu? Uber-Awesomeness (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC) No answers... PLEASE HELP! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uber-Awesomeness (talk • contribs) 18:34, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

What about the physics?
Could some one add a .gif? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.77.226.5 (talk) 02:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Of what ? a box falling to the ground ? a contraption? 85.218.155.153 (talk) 21:00, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Search Youtube for Gmod contraptions if you want to see the game in action. Ggigabitem (talk) 02:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

HL2DM Compatibility
I own a copy of Half-Life 2: Deathmatch, and I have tried purchasing Garry's Mod several times. Each time however, Steam tells me that I have no compatible games. It would seem that DM on it's own doesn't satisfy the requirements. Should it be removed from the list? On a side note, same thing happens with the Source SDK. Lx45803 (talk) 20:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * HL2DM is a mod of HL2. You need one base source engine game from Valve like HL2, Ep2, Ep1 or CSS. DOD:S may also work, but I'm not totally sure. Ggigabitem (talk) 02:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe you haven't opened HL2:DM or Source SDK before? It states in the article that you have to have launched a Source game at least once to run the mod.
 * -- Nextil  - (talk) 13:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Did you buy that copy of HD2DM? because the free version doesn't work for gmod —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.30.112.167 (talk) 12:51, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Spam Writing
The person with the IP: 90.191.99.43 has gone through the page and done a bunch of spam editing, with things like "Deth and Dyspair(Death and Despair), "Eextreecshon (or something like that)" - Extraction. Could a mod please revert the page to what it was before this person edited.

Edit: Thanks to Fnfd for returning the page to its original state.

And I hope the comment below is directed at 90.191.99.43, and not me =S.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Marrakkew (talk • contribs) 03:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Bad spelling
GO BACK TO SCHOOL SPAMMER Somegamer (talk) 03:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Double Facepunch Advert
Good job, whoever the idiot was who put the facepunch URL where it doesn't belong, complete with bad grammar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.158.77.21 (talk) 15:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Orange Box
The Orange Box is not a game, but a collection of games, all of which fit the requirement. Why is it on the list? Should we include the Valve Complete Pack, Episodic Pack, and any other pack that has these games in it?
 * How about "Most content compatible with the Source engine, as used in other retail products." Or something to that end? Bradfirj92 (talk) 00:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Category Ambiguity
Why is this article in the category "Fanmade computer game remakes and sequels"? It is not a remake, nor is it a sequel. Elliott B (T | C) 18:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC) Is there a "modifications" category? This makes little sense to me either. Theusernameiwantedisalreadyinuse (talk) 06:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Garry Newman needs a page
It would be a good idea to have a garry newman page or a subsection on the main garrysmod page. Vbitz (talk) 21:16, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This page is marked as a low-importance Video Game article, I think that sort of decides for us that we don't need a separate page for the author. Bradfirj92 (talk) 00:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

User Created Content Section
I believe this entire section needs either pruned or completely re-written. It's more of an advertisment for certain mods than an encyclopedic entry. Bradfirj92 (talk) 00:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, the addons listed are indeed the most popular, so much so that it's hard to find a vanilla server online. I don't think it should be removed, as it offers insight into how much the GMod community relies on these addons. 24.56.195.64 (talk) 23:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * This is true, and the addons listed(particularly Phoenix-Storms and Wiremod) are extremely popular, to the point where almost all servers use them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.199.220 (talk) 09:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Version 11...
"With the eleventh version of Garry's Mod, the version numbers were dropped, and it has now become simply Garry's Mod."

There's no 11th version, it's still Version 10, even the Infobox says Version 10. --Solidsnake204 Talk~Contribs 16:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Mathmatically it is still 11. --82.34.154.168 (talk) 16:05, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, I've heard that mathematically it's like version 16 or so... 84.87.38.168 (talk) 23:06, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


 * From a technical standpoint, it is known as Garry's Mod 10.5. It's been called Garry's Mod 11. Halofanatic333 (talk) 12:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

The game is "Garry's Mod 10" on steam. Arguably, the game is the 11th version of the engine, but it was never officially announced as Garrys Mod 11, so i set the version to (gmodnumber.patchnumber) when i created the Version infobox. Knowledge lover1123 (talk) 04:29, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Pretty good idea. Only reason, at least this is what I believe, that it is being called "Garry's Mod 11" is because of the change from the Half-life 2 engine to the one used in the Orange Box.Halofanatic333 (talk) 15:15, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Facepunch Forums
I suggest making a new page for the Facepunch Forums, since it's quite a lot larger than just the Gmod forums... 84.87.38.168 (talk) 23:07, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Criticizm
Why is there no criticism section? Garrys mod is regularly critized for being buggy, having lackluster developer responses to issues, creating game breaking issues every update and allowing for massive amounts of spammed gmod-based images to be released online. these are fairly important points, most covered in regular gaming forums and websites. They should be noted here. Otherwise it's just reading as an ad for Gmod and you may as well just copy+paste the steam store's description of the game. - 15.195.201.87 (talk) 04:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to include criticisms of the mod, provided they come from reliable sources. Otherwise you are engaging in original research which is inappropriate for inclusion. Cheers. Doniago (talk) 16:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Criticism section is decently covered, although calling it "notorious" for breaking things with updates is pushing it a bit (maybe notorious within the community since the userbase is clearly the most affected by said changes but hardly notorious in a more widespread sense). --99.186.108.193 (talk) 04:49, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

SDK clarification
Should this article ever get its myriad of issues resolved, a consideration toward mentioning that it runs on an outdated version of the Valve SDK might be informative... or not. Just an idea. --99.186.108.193 (talk) 04:53, 8 May 2010 (UTC) It really doesn't. Though it runs on the Source 2007 (Orange Box) engine, that's like saying that Half Life runs on an outdated engine. Theusernameiwantedisalreadyinuse (talk) 09:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Any game released using a newer version of the Source engine immediately leaves any game using an older version "outdated" by technical reasoning alone. --99.186.110.193 (talk) 15:37, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Little correction
At some point it says "an website". This grates, could someone fix, please?