Talk:Gary Wang (American businessman)

Requested move 25 October 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved to Gary Wang (American businessman) and Gary Wang (Chinese businessman). Dab page to be created at the base title after the moves are done. (non-admin closure) Jenks24 (talk) 11:10, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

– "(executive)" is a poor disambiguator for the CTO of FTX because the other Gary Wang was also an executive, serving as the CEO of Tudou. Also, I don't believe there is a primary topic here, so we should have a disambiguation page at Gary Wang. Maybe we could do Gary Wang (American entrepreneur) and Gary Wang (Chinese entrepreneur)? King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Material  Works  11:32, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Gary Wang (executive) → ?
 * Gary Wang → ?
 * Support per arguments put forth in the nomination. A Gary Wang disambiguation page is indeed warranted and the suggested main title headers Gary Wang (American entrepreneur) and Gary Wang (Chinese entrepreneur) seem appropriate. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Gary Wang (American entrepreneur) and Gary Wang (Chinese entrepreneur) per nom and Roman Spinner. Would also accept a similar occupational title like "businessman" in the DAB. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:07, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Gary Wang (American businessman) and Gary Wang (Chinese businessman). We usually avoid "entrepreneur" like the plague, as it tends to be a self-applied term intended to make the individual sound important and innovative. "Businessman" is standard. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:48, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Relisting comment: Would like some consensus on whether "businessman" or "entrepreneur" should be used. — Material  Works  11:32, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Comment. I would note that if we use "entrepreneur" then it will be going against WP:CONSISTENT. Many articles have been moved away from this disambiguator to "businessman". -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:40, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support "businessman" as well. -- King of ♥ ♦<b style="color:black"> ♣</b><b style="color:black"> ♠</b> 21:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Notability vs self-identity
Although Wang is most notable as cofounder (entrepreneur) and CTO (businessman) and now admitted to fraud (criminal) .. he primarily self-identifies as a computer programmer. He took little interest in the corporate side of affairs and preferred working from home coding solutions to whatever problems people said they needed to solve. He trusted others to manage the affairs of the company. This is according to most sources. This is not a free pass to his crimes, he had corporate responsibility, and he admitted to his crimes in a plea bargain. Rather it shows how he self-identifies primarily as a programmer and not a businessman. It's an interesting case of notability not fitting reality very well. -- Green  C  18:45, 25 January 2024 (UTC)