Talk:Gas hydrate

Nominated for deletion
Nominated for deletion: see Articles for deletion/Gas Hydrate GGenov 13:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Lets merge some pages
I would suggest merging this page with the one called Clathrate hydrate. This one is technical and the other is more fundamental. The idea is to use the other one as a platform and add the usefull information from this article. One reason is that there is some wrong and misleading information in this one and the other reason is that the technical issues about hydrates are a subset of the main problem. I’ll start working on that but haven’t gotten much time at the moment. GGenov 11:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

support They should be the same page. That said gas hydrate is a more widely used name than clathrate Frank van Mierlo 01:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Good point! I've been thinking about this as well. GGenov 09:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The best would be to merge the pages and make it a combined "Methane Clathrate/Gas Hydrate" title with redirects from both Methane Clathrate, Gas Hydrate, Hydrate and Methane Clathrate Hydrates. There is some good work happening at MBARI on this topic check it out: http://www.mbari.org/raman/hydrates.htm http://www.mbari.org/volcanism/Margin/Marg-Hydrates.htm http://www.mbari.org/ghgases/geochem/gas_hydrates.htm Thank you for taking this initiatives. Frank van Mierlo 03:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Frank, thanks for the feedback and for the links and ideas. Concerning the Hydrate entry in Wikipedia - it deals with hydration as a chemical reaction and is of a little relevance to our thing here. After all, as Sloan said on one workshop in 2003 "gas hydrates are not chemical compounds. Their formation is nothing but a first order phase transition". So, I would rather stick to the solid-state physics here then involving much chemistry. On the other hand the Methane hydrate issue, I believe, deservs a separate article, due to its popularity and importance on Earth. Adding it to the main Gas hydrate article would create a big disproportion and will deflect the attention from the general problem. Moreover, I'm not sure that the guys from USGS will be happy if I move their Methane hydrate elsewhere. Another thing is that I made an article on CO2 hydrate and following the logic it might need to go to the main Gas hydrate article as well. If we combine all clathrates in one article it will become huge. By the way, I started the merging. See Clathrate hydrate page. It is not the best ever but it's a beginning. GGenov 08:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

May be it is not bad idea to say more about space hydrates, which are gaining popularity in ice related planetology (Mars, icy moons, comets and so on). I may dig something from this field. AFalenty 17:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Not at all a bad idea. Bring it all in GGenov 16:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)