Talk:Gasparilla Bowl

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Beef & → St. Petersburg Bowl – Beef 'O' Brady's declined to renew sponsorship of the game, so it is reverting back to its old name, the 'St. Petersburg Bowl'. Roberto221 (talk) 01:31, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Roberto221 (talk) 01:31, 28 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Support - exactly the reason for WP:COMMONNAME. The naming deals change, but the common name rarely does -- Rushton2010 (talk) 03:40, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy support Red Slash 21:21, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Talk move
Hi, BrownHairedGirl, could you please move this talkpage, too? Thank you and have a nice day! Red Slash 05:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Ooops! Sorry for the oversight, and thanks for the reminder. Will do it now. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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Conference afilliations
The table of appearances by conference should reflect the school's affiliation at the time of the game. Lumping in schools from the old Big East together with the AAC is simply inaccurate, as there actually was an AAC at the time and those programs were not members, at least not yet. I dunno that listing conference affiliations any other way is "standard"; it seems inconsistent, to me. But in any case, listing schools by current conference affiliation is a terrible formulation that introduces deliberate factual errors, and any bowl game article that lists schools like that should be changed.

Just one example - Georgia Tech was a founding member of the SEC, then left after 32 years to become independent, then joined the Metro for a little while, and finally joined the ACC in 1979. I would certainly NOT count them as being from the ACC in all of their many bowl appearances, since they were not a member for most of them. Zeng8r (talk) 13:44, 30 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi - this is a tricky one, which I've been on the fence about. Big East / The American records have been merged in multiple places before my contributions to this bowl page or others. Agree that "appearances by conference should reflect the school's affiliation at the time of the game". Your second paragraph is not the intent, and looks off-target, as this isn't about specific teams, it's about the conference itself. When a conference adjusts membership and name (e.g. Pac-10 became the Pac-12) I can see keeping the records and lineage unified. The explanation here, from what I can discern, is that the football part of the Big East continues on as The American - I looked at the American Athletic Conference page, which reads (in part); "While the other successor, which does not sponsor football, purchased the Big East Conference name, The American inherited the old Big East's structure and is that conference's legal successor." Given than background, if The American had changed its name to something like "Big East II", I don't think there would be concern here. So while they didn't change their name, I can see the lineage argument. To get more background, I checked the history of the Belk Bowl page, and the change/merge of Big East and The American was made there in December 2013 by User:Tom Danson. Personally, I'd like bowl pages to handle this area consistently; since I saw most pages handle this like the Belk Bowl, I've continued in that vein. Changing it now may need discussion from a larger audience to reach consensus. In the meanwhile, for bowl pages I've updated, I've made effort to keep them consistent (accepting the lineage position), while documenting Big East-specific records in a footnote. Dmoore5556 (talk)