Talk:Gastropub

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Don't you think that readers might want to know where the gastropub began? By the same logic references to McDonald's should be removed from Fast Food. Edward 17:07, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that pub serving high quality food started at that particular pub. I can remeber going to pubs long before that, which attempted to do the same thing. Simply because someone coined a marketing term does mean that invented the underlying concept.--Jirate 17:13, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

Is it fair to say that the Fat Duck is a pub, or a gastro-pub? I always understood it to be far more involved that that; as Heston's TV show tonight will no doubt show! 16:50, 2006 Oct 31 (UTC)

The Fat Duck is not a pub. People often confuse it with Blumenthals other resteraunt, which is a pub, so I shall remove the entry. Adamshappy 16:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Why "combination" and not "portmanteau"? I think we all stand to gain impressiveness by changing it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.23.242.17 (talk) 20:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow! "even" American cuisine???? How shocking!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.147.243.128 (talk) 15:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I removed the sentence "In November, 2008, The Gastro Pub, The Fox and Hounds, Knatts Valley, Sevenoaks, Kent. Won the TV AWARDS Destination pub of the year 2008 http://www.foxnhounds.co.uk". As well as being confusingly punctuated, the award is too obscure to be of note, and is therefore an irrelevant plug. 86.144.108.227 (talk) 16:12, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Why do the first and last paragraphs contradict each other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.238.144.119 (talk) 05:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Why the reference to "vendors selling cockles, whelks, mussels and other shellfish"? This has nothings to do with pubs.203.184.41.226 (talk) 05:54, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

"Criticisms" section removed
I certainly think there could be a place for a section on this subject - perhaps dealing with the charge that some very ordinary pubs use it to imply that their food is better than it really is - just not this section, which I reproduce in full below:


 * Recently, scholars have debated the necessity for such an obviously redundant term. Instead, phrases such as "a restaurant with an extensive bar" or "a bar with high quality food" have been suggested as alternative methods of identification. Additionally, New York Magazine has introduced the term "Pub Grub" to refer to food of a similar concept.

The first part of the paragraph is unreferenced waffle: which scholars? When? Where? The second part is silly: it's pretty obvious that "gastropub" will be preferred by both proprietors and writers to "a restaurant with an extensive bar" simply on grounds of brevity and snappiness. The final sentence was referenced (to this article) but the idea that NY Mag introduced the phrase "Pub Grub" is utterly laughable: it long predates "gastropub"; I saw it commonly in Britain in the 1980s and it wasn't new then. Loganberry (Talk) 21:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Someone restored the criticisms section without any justification. I will again remove as I agree with Loganberry's reasoning. Kurtmdphd (talk) 23:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Term "coined in 1991"?
What is the source for the claim that the term "gastropub" was coined in 1991? The earliest reference the Oxford English Dictionary has is from the London Evening Standard in April 1996. Zythophile (talk) 21:00, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

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Lead
I'm not happy with the new definition given in the lead. Lots of pubs serve 'comfort food', but that doesn't make them gastropubs. The previous definition described gastropubs as hybrid pub-restaurants which, imo, is a far more accurate description.Obscurasky (talk) 18:53, 5 January 2022 (UTC)