Talk:Gauche caviar

Merger
I have preposed merging the following articles to the LIBERAL ELITE article.


 * Hollywood Left
 * Champagne socialist
 * East Coast liberal
 * Gauche caviar
 * Limousine liberal
 * San Francisco values
 * Chardonnay socialist
 * Massachusetts liberal
 * Chattering classes

Firstly, they all say much of the same thing and secondly if they were all brought together it would give a worldwide viewpoint instead into "Liberal elitism" instead of having a US bias. I will copy this message on all the other article talk pages. All discussions should be done on the LIBERAL ELITE talk page so that all discussions are kept together. — Realist 2  ( Who's Bad? ) 05:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * One slight snag with that approach is that the term liberal elite is itself somewhat US-centric: as this article notes, liberal changes meaning as it crosses the pond. The targets of this comment (and others in Europe like champagne socialist) are not necessarily "liberals" in the European sense. There are two quite separate notions in all this, I think. Mcewan (talk) 20:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Liberal elite would not be the appropriate merger target. Limousine liberal and Champagne socialist are similar - but Limousine liberal has a longer and separate provenance. I think Liberal elite should stand as a separate article and be cleaned up.  Limousine liberal should stand as a separate article.  Champagne socialist should accept mergers from Gauche caviar, chardonnay socialist, and chattering classes as all being British or European terms that are similar.  We can also include the German, Swedish, Netherlands terms in there.  They all seem to be related to the late 80s which is distinct from the Limousine liberal term which was coined earlier. --Matilda talk 22:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I must tell you, that those terms about Champagne Socialists and the equivalents is by you only discussed that they were particularly in the 1980s. I know this term a lot longer, and I've been told in history, that existed in the 19th century also. A very famous champagne socialist used to be even Karl Marx himself! An ancestor of mine, born 1805 founded a big factory, and he used to be nothing but a champagne socialist either. And at the same time he exploited his blue collar workers excellentely! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.215.217.35 (talk) 10:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)