Talk:Gaudium et spes

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Article Revision Plans
Hi all, I plan on making substantial edits to the Wikipedia page within the next few weeks. This will consist of a major revision. I will start by strengthening the lead section by adding more context and information about what the constitution actually is. The lead section in its current state doesn't say much about the document. I will then be adding a background section to discuss the document's historical context in Vatican II as well as describing its creation. It will lead into the Overview section which will be strengthened and simplified for clarity. The back half of the article will help combine some sections currently in the article into a section about the major themes of Gaudium et Spes. I will end with the reception of the document as well as the impacts it has made. This will bring the document closer to Wikipedia guidelines for article standards. Below is a link to my sandbox which includes my annotated bibliography. Please let me know of any question or feedback you may have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raf3279/Gaudium_et_spes/Bibliography?venotify=created

Raf3279 (talk) 03:01, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Contents
Not much on the contents of the document. Should be listed as a stub. --TPB 20:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Can we not just copy the contents of the document from the vatican archives? They are teaching documents so there should be no copyright issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil 20686 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Two issues here. Church documents are copyrighted, as that is how the Church keeps control of the texts, but does not restrict access or use -- particularly conciliar documents as this.  (This is not well known, as notices were few and far between for years.  When the Vatican publishers put the notices on some recent documents, everyone thought this was some new move.  They were wrong.)


 * The other is that this is an encyclopedia, not just storage space. It is not clear from your comment whether you mean the whole document or just sections.   Selected portions with commentary (properly referenced) would be a good approach here to a very important document.  If you want to, get started.  Be bold. --ClaudeMuncey 12:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the german Wikipedia entry on this document has a nice summary of the "Main points" (Kernaussagen) of Gaudium et Spes. Maybe someone is able to translate this? [guest] 77.13.173.159 (talk) 12:53, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It has been ten years since the last post on this thread and the article still needs more extension. Also needs editing into a better structure and flow. Is there a template for this kind of article? It probably needs to be the summary paragraph and then a table of contents. It may not need much additional material, but it seems like it probably needs a little. I would try my hand at it but my available time is extremely limited plus i am the farthest thing from a subject matter expert so it would be like a gorilla in a china shop. Also: a Big Thank You to whomever it was who explained the importance of Vatican 2!!! After all these years of ignorance and trying to understand why it was supposed to be a big deal, i finally get it! Thanks again. :-> 96.241.220.137 (talk) 11:29, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Extension
We need to get started on extending this one -- it is one of the four constitutions and it is a rather unbalanced stub.ClaudeMuncey 12:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your contrib. In what way do you see the article being extended to become balanced? Withit 08:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi is there any citations available for the quotations attributed to Pope Benedict XVI? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.247.115.39 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC) The "criticism" section is a biased mess that needs proof-reading. Anyone? --TPB 18:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Abortion
I noticed that Gaudium et Spes is part of the pro-life Magisterium of the Church, which is a bit remarkable since the document is commonly cited by liberals to promote all sorts of anti-life causes. ADM (talk) 16:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Louis-Joseph Lebret
I have just started a little article on Louis-Joseph Lebret and sources indicate He was involved with the drafting the documents Gaudium et Spes, an influential voice in the crafting of Populorum Progressio is there any space for this here or more refs for this document about its origins? Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 22:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC))

spirituality of peace based on Guadium et Spes
spirituality of peace based on Guadium et Spes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.252.138.70 (talk) 18:17, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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