Talk:Gays for Trump/Archive 1

RfC on Donald Trump regarding inclusion of LGBT rights section
Your participation is requested on the Donald Trump talk page regarding adding an LGBT rights section under Domestic Policy here. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 17:07, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

RfC on Donald Trump regarding lede sentence
Please comment on this RfC here regarding how best to describe the status of his presidency. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 04:38, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Re: addition of content about Trump's "LGBT's for Trump" sign
Is this worth nothing? It's not specifically about the organization Gays for Trump. Or, if there is a connection, the current wording does not make this clear. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:17, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Update: The info was removed by this edit, which I support. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:29, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello
why the Page is so short?, there any other source to add?.--Bolzanobozen (talk) 11:29, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Feel free to help expand! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:45, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Contested deletion
Feel free to start an AfD discussion, but I don't think speedy deletion is appropriate. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:43, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree; the sources in the article are sufficient to demonstrate that it does not meet criterion A7. If someone wants the article to be deleted, they can use WP:PROD or WP:AFD. The IP user who has been re-adding the speedy deletion tag has violated this article's arbitration remedies and should stop. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:43, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Please add Peter Boykin as Founder and President
I have already made the edit but it was then changed back. Peter Boykin is the Founder and should be listed in the article and not just as a footnote on the far right. If you are going to say "Scott Presler is an activist for Gays for Trump" then should you not also indicate in the article that the founder and President of the organization?7valentine7 (talk) 06:11, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , ✅ I did not find your other changes to the article constructive, but I've added back brief mention of Boykin to the introduction. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:34, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you it makes sense to have him back in the article 7valentine7 (talk) 07:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Why was Peter Boykin Removed from the Page Linking to him being the President of Gays For Trump?
Hi, Yes I am Peter Boykin I am still the President and Founder of Gays for Trump so why was this edited to no longer state this fact? I think it might be because some of the cites you previously had on the page were removed? I am trying to get a wiki page of my own so I would prefer at least to be still included in a page that I founded at least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.118.44.201 (talk) 23:30, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

All one has to do is look in the history and it clearly stated that Peter Boykin is the President of Gays For Trump, I would request that it be put back in but as Founder of Gays for Trump, the cofounder is also my other half David Smith as well. Also above this section shows where the references were taken out that referred to articles that had me in it that proved who I am and what relation I have to this group. Is it possible for this to be looked into? I am not an expert of Wiki language. can someone step in and help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.118.44.201 (talk) 22:15, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Reply 29-OCT-2019
Regards, Spintendo  03:52, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The question asks why a certain claim was removed from the article. However, it was not stated when that claim ever existed in the article.
 * Please provide a WP:DIFF showing (a) when the claim was added, and (b) when the claim was removed. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the  template's answer parameter to read from yes to no. Thank you!

I've located the diffs. Boykin was listed as president of the group in March 2017, a claim which was removed in December 2017 when a new president of the group was chosen. A claim of being founder was first made in June 2018, where it appeared in the prose and in the infobox's founder parameter. The infobox was eventually removed; the reasons for its removal are unknown. The only references I could find from that time period confirming that Boykin was the founder were the Washington Blade and Newsweek. You asked earlier if these changes "could be reverted". The simple answer is no — reverting the text cannot be done. A request to add the information anew should be posted here. I hope the information provided above helps in formulating that request. Please note that requests to add information to the article (or in this case, to revise it) should contain the verbatim text that is desired to be added, the verbatim text that is to be removed, the location in the text where the revised claim is to be placed, and the properly formatted references accompanying the claim along with a new template all placed here on the talk page. An example for how this should be done is shown below:

 1. Please remove the third sentence from the second paragraph of the Sun section:
 * "The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 25 miles in length."

2. Please add the following claim as the third sentence of the second paragraph of the Sun section:
 * "The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 864,337 miles in length."

3. Using as the reference:

4. Reason for change being made:
 * "The previously given diameter was incorrect."

Regards, Spintendo  10:09, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Request edit

 * Thanks for checking into this, but I don't believe the "President of Gays For Trump" was changed in Dec of 2017, it has as far as I know been included. This was not changed it seems until Feb of 2019.
 * This is the revision that included the correct information: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gays_for_Trump&direction=prev&oldid=884515083
 * It seems someone else came along and changed the name in the revision after that which is here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gays_for_Trump&direction=next&oldid=884514929
 * Listing "Rogan waye is the founder and president.[1]" it seems a revision after that just took out the part about me completely out.
 * There is no such other President that was named. I am and always have been and will be the "President of Gays For Trump" -
 * I apologize if I don't get the formatting correct. - thanks Peter Boykin


 * Please add the following claim as the second sentence of the first paragraph of the Top section:
 * 1) "Peter Boykin Serves as Founder and President.[1]


 * Using as the reference:
 * "Inside Gays for Trump's Deploraball Dance Party". Archived from the original on 2017-03-17. Retrieved 2017-03-24. http://time.com/4642202/trump-inauguration-gay-deploraball/


 * Someone changed the name in the next revision it appears as a joke, and a few revisions after that it was removed


 * I believe that these Sources do serve a good purpose, as stated previously they served as Notability: isn't Wiki ran on proper Sources?


 * 1) Please add the following Sources back to the Sources section:

"Gays for Trump Founder Peter Boykin Calls Transgender Troops 'Mentally Challenged'". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30. http://www.newsweek.com/gays-trump-trans-people-mentally-challenge-845251 "'Gays for Trump' planning Lincoln Memorial rally". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30. http://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/02/12/march4trump/ Broverman, Neal (March 3, 2017). "Gay Trump Supporters Organizing Rallies for President on Saturday". The Advocate. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-03-26. Retrieved March 26, 2017. http://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/3/03/gay-trump-supporters-organizing-rallies-president-saturday Scott, H. Alan (August 2, 2016). "Gays for Trump: Why Some LGBTQ Americans Are Voting for The Donald". Out. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 26, 2017. http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/8/02/gays-trump-why-some-lgbtq-americans-are-voting-donald Moakley, Paul (January 21, 2017). "Inside Gays for Trump's Deploraball Dance Party". Time. New York. Archived from the original on 2017-03-17. Retrieved March 23, 2017. http://time.com/4642202/trump-inauguration-gay-deploraball/ "Gays For Trump President Says GOP Sick of Hearing 'Screaming of the Liberal Left LGBT'". FOX 5. Washington. January 26, 2017. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 6, 2018. http://www.fox5dc.com/news/231909077-story "Gays for Trump Founder Peter Boykin Calls Transgender Troops 'Mentally Challenged'". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30. http://www.newsweek.com/gays-trump-trans-people-mentally-challenge-845251 "'Gays for Trump' planning Lincoln Memorial rally". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30. http://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/02/12/march4trump/ Broverman, Neal (March 3, 2017). "Gay Trump Supporters Organizing Rallies for President on Saturday". The Advocate. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-03-26. Retrieved March 26, 2017. http://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/3/03/gay-trump-supporters-organizing-rallies-president-saturday Scott, H. Alan (August 2, 2016). "Gays for Trump: Why Some LGBTQ Americans Are Voting for The Donald". Out. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 26, 2017. http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/8/02/gays-trump-why-some-lgbtq-americans-are-voting-donald Moakley, Paul (January 21, 2017). "Inside Gays for Trump's Deploraball Dance Party". Time. New York. Archived from the original on 2017-03-17. Retrieved March 23, 2017. http://time.com/4642202/trump-inauguration-gay-deploraball/ "Gays For Trump President Says GOP Sick of Hearing 'Screaming of the Liberal Left LGBT'". FOX 5. Washington. January 26, 2017. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 6, 2018. http://www.fox5dc.com/news/231909077-story I believe that these Sources do serve a good purpose, as stated previously they served as Notability: isn't Wiki ran on proper Sources?"

Peter Boykin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.118.44.201 (talk) 13:15, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Reply 1-NOV-2019
Regards, Spintendo  15:32, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The founder parameter of the infobox has been restored.

Official Facebook page
Are you sure this is the group's official Facebook page? This doesn't look very official to me. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, maybe not. It looked pretty legit when I scrolled through it, but the author, whose name I did not see in any media coverage of the group, is affiliated with Breitbart somehow and is not the group's president. I removed it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:58, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for double checking! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:59, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi I know I am not supposed to make changes to this page due to COE: but if someone wants to add the official facebook page its
 * https://www.facebook.com/GaysForTrumpOrg and our Group on Facebook is Closed to the Public is http://www.facebook.com/groups/gaysfortrump/
 * also our website is http://gaysfortrump.org if anyone wants to add this in.
 * Also if anyone needs more references to show this page is legit at our website there is media page that is FULL of them.
 * I don't think Facebook links are allowed, but I added the official website to the External links section. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you Very Much Another Believer the website is good as everything they ever need is on that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterBoykin (talk • contribs) 00:25, 12 April 2017 (UTC)