Talk:Gei Pang Lok Hup Academy

Notability/Speedy Delete
This is an internationally-present 501-C3 non-profit organisation founded by Moy Lin-shin. Through it's parent organisation, the International Taoist Tai Chi Society it is present in over 25 countries globally. How can a certified non-profit be spam? It doesn't stand to gain any profit financially from a mention. Also, the article does not give any list of "benefits" or other spam-like "information" present in spam articles. It simply gives the facts. VanTucky 05:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This article seems little more than publicity for a school. Whether or not the school is for profit or not-for-profit is irrelevent.  (RookZERO 05:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC))
 * No it is relevant. Any other school stands to make profit from an increase in students through an advert, no one stands to make a profit at nonprofit. like they say "follow the money". Also, it's not just any nonprofit, as I said before it's an internationally known non-profit just like the Taoist Tai Chi Society, if that isnt spam then neither is this. Per your opinions on Talk:Taoist Tai Chi Society, you seem to be taking your personal perspective on the teaching approach of these societies to too much account in this debate. You don't see this non-profit as having value to students of internal martial arts, so you think it begs deletion. VanTucky 05:48, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The non-profit organization stands to gain, as do the people running the organization (in prestige even if not in money; often both). (RookZERO 06:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC))
 * If it's prestige, how does a stub with no language glorifying its self-proclaimed achievments or other typical spam garbage stand to seen as prestigious? Here is the exact wording...

"....established with the intent to teach the internal martial arts other than Tai Chi, mainly Lok Hup Ba Fa (Liuhe Bafa). They teach a 66 posture form supposedly derived from lineage of teachers at the Chin Woo Athletic Association in Shanghai whose teachers were of Wu Yi Hui lineage."


 * That is the only real description of the organisation. It doesnt even say it does teach something, only that Moy established it with the intent to. And it doesn't make any wild absolute claims about lineage like a martial arts spam article usually does. It doesn't get much more NPOV than that. How is that spam?VanTucky 06:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if it's spam or not, but the article doesn't seem to assert the notability of this particular martial arts school. What makes it more important than the other fifty million martial art schools running around?  The fact of being non-profit, doesn't justify an article; some verifiable, third-party sources must be cited.  Useight 06:39, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not really just one school. It's more like hundreds of schools all over the world under the purview of one organisation. But yes, it does need sources. However, it's 11:30 my time and I'll look in the morning. For now, it seems to me that if this article is to be deleted it needs to undergo an AFD process and is in no way a speedy candidate. From my perspective, I wasn't keen on giving this its own entire article in the first place, and I do think there probably isn't enough third-party sources solely about the Gei Pang Academy, however it does merit mention in relation to it's parent organisation the Taoist Tai Chi Society. Maybe a merge of this stub into that article as a section is the solution. VanTucky 06:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge
I was unable to find a single independent resource covering solely the Gei Pang Lok Hup Academy, so I merged its content with Taoist Tai Chi Society per WP:Notability. VanTucky 19:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for comment?
Is this page still requesting comments, or can its listing be removed from Requests for comment/Society, law, and sex?--Daveswagon 23:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * nope, I'll do it. VanTucky 23:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you.--Daveswagon 23:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)