Talk:Gekkeiju Online

Deletion
Every effort has been made with this article but th latest set of criticism from Wikipedia staff has persuaded me to delete it.

Notability. This subject is notable for its cultural significance.

References. References are simply not available at this time.

Written like an advertisment. Every effort has been made to avoid this, including reading other articles on specific source topics. Your claim that it is an advertisment is subjective.

Quality Standards. Not only is this subjective, it is also wrong. However, I see little point in pursuing the matter.

The article has been removed. If you want to have a reference to Gekkeiju Online in Wikipedia, then please find someone else to write it. Otherwise, may I suggest you continue with the unofficial censorship, which Wikipedia is becoming infamous for, of deleting information with some of the Wikipedia staff don't find personally interesting. surfingus (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Cultural Significance, notability and references
The internet has created a number of significant possibilities for profound social change in our society and world society. With the interactions of people, from different parts of the world, the potential is enormous.

A significant part of the internet culture is online gaming.

It is difficult to include references to the descriptions of these games other than referring people to the game itself. But claims are open to disagreement by other Wikipedia contributors. That is, after all, the strength of Wikipedia.

Moreover, the nature of these games, relying upon current technology, means they won't continue indefinitely.

It would be a tragedy to exclude or limit records of these games. I suggest it would rank alongside the destruction of so many recording archives from the 1950s and 1960s by the BBC and others.

Imagine if the early recordings of a little four man combo from Liverpool, made in the early 60s, were thrown away because they didn't meet some criteria designed for different types of subjects or because no-one could find any references to some obscure teenager called Paul McCartney.

May I therfore, strongly urge the Editors of Wikipedia to think very carefully about how they manage cultural records such as these?

I will be happy to expand the descriptions of this article and possibly include some still images if this is requested. surfingus (talk) 18:54, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Re-write
'''Gekkeiju Online now back online. Proposed rewrite of the article.''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Surfingus (talk • contribs) 15:20, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Gekkeiju is now back online in its updated format. It is, however, in a Public Beta stage. Many features are not yet available. These have been promised over the cource of the next 12 months.

I am continuing to gather information about Gekkeiju and intend to write an article to completely replace the current one, within the next few months.

The new article will attempt to focus on the nature of this online game, provide as many references as possible, including a number of associated sites which are being hosted by users of Gekkeiju. It will try to avoid being an advertisment or a review, concentrating on the nature its attractions to those who use it and the features that attract them. These can be verified from the various associate sites and from the comprehensive online reference provided by Coolhouse.

If it becomes available, some information will also be included about the authors of Gekkeiju. surfingus (talk) 15:19, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

The article has now been re-written.

I have attempted to write this as a reference source of what is, avoiding the appearence of an advertisment or a review. Comments will be most welcome.

References to reliable third-party sources are unavailable, due to the nature of the subject. There are some links to text pages produced by the producers of the game. However, cross referencing has not been done, at this time, simply because the method is unknown to me. If I can get an explaination of how to do this, in coloquial English, I will be happy to include these.

The links to old reviews have been left. Some of these reviews may now seem put of date. But their existance is a matter of fact. surfingus (talk) 12:00, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

MUD-Features?
"The game brings forth features from MUDs that have never been seen in graphical MMORPGs."

It would propably be good to give some examples for this claim... --87.234.143.16 20:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

This game is often referred to as M.U.D..

The defination, here in Wikipedia, of a M.U.D. is that the environment is created entirely of text.

The environment in Gekkeiju is highly graphical with very sophisticated graphics. surfingus (talk) 18:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit
I have added a description of the MUD style of play and some notes on the advantages this gives to players. I believe this feature is almost unique in online games of this type. It creates a more constructive environment for social interaction.

I have also given some brief details of the modes of play which can be expected.

Those with some experience of MMORPGs will hopefully appreciate the differences these features offer and the opportunities for more sustained interest.

Problems with the article
It says there are nine races, but only 5 seem to be selectable in the game. Why is that? Do you have to unlock them? The reason why should be mentioned in the article.

(There have been nine selectable for years now. Previously, only a subset of the races were available at each reincarnation location.  Currently, each reincarnation locations has each race available.)

Also, this article gives no mention to the highly 'aggressive' writing in the game, which sets it apart from other MMORPGs. It seems to be written by and for MMORPG gamers. Has anyone thought about that? --67.172.13.176 (talk) 22:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Part of the game play is accumulating experience points. With these, specialist skills can be exchanged, levels attained and personal attributes, strength; dexterity; constitution; intelegence; wisdom and chrisma, aquired.

Personal skills and levels are 'bought' form the level trainer while specialist skills are bought from a guild master.

All players start as Warrior class, a limited number of races are available. With little or no experience, most new players thend to buy skills that they later realise they don't really need.

As players accumulate exp. they need to think about reincarnating their character. By doing this they can retrieve all the exp. points they have so far spent and use these to buy skills they need for the objectives they have set themselves.

They do this at the Level Trainer. There is a level trainer in most towns. Each level trainer offers different reincarnation choices. Most offer human, but some, such as Halfling are only available form some level trainers.

The game is currently undergoing a major rewrite. It will essentially remain the same, but the 'world' will be expanded consderably. Moreover, new guilds will introduced and many other new features.

I shall be rewiting the entire article, some time next year, to describe these. surfingus (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC).

current effort
What exactly is the purpose of this current effort?

You launched a number of silly attacks on my compehensive contribution.

I removed these at your suggestion only to find you have put in this incomprehensible nonsense.

Is this some sort of joke? surfingus (talk) 09:57, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

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