Talk:Gender policing

Potential additions and edits
I plan to add to the Gender policing article. I hope to provide more of an analysis of gender policing, its role in our society, and its "origins." I plan to add a section about gender and race and their roles as social constructs. I plan on editing the leader as well and providing more citation over all. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Price, Jammie, and Gregory M. Herek. "Stigma and Sexual Orientation: Understanding Prejudice against Lesbians, Gay Men and Bisexuals." Contemporary Sociology 28.2 (1999): 1-20. Pbs.org. PBS. Web. 26 Oct. 2016. .

This article searches for self described motivations of people who committed hate crimes against LGBT identified people. It aims to answer why people who label themselves progressive and not anti-gay would harm LGBT identified folk. Reasons that were listed were homosocial bonding, responses to feelings of powerlessness, punishment for cultural and social deviation from norms. The article has cited sources and relays information with clear language and analysis.

I found this article through Google by searching “homophobia misogyny.”

Spargo, Tamsin. Post Modern Encounters Foucault and Queer Theory. New York: Totem, 1999. Print.

This article provides a genealogy of queer theory starting with Foucault then describing Judith Butler’s ideas. Foucault’s ideas would help with breaking down gender policing. Foucault says that institutions keep power by prescribing accepted identities and marginalizing those that don’t fit into these frameworks. Butler breaks down these identities and describes them as performative. Like Foucault, Butler says that these identities are assigned to us according to our actions and the frameworks we find ourselves in. The tone in this article feels very informal but informative. It is meant to summarize and critique post modernism and queer theory.

I received this reading in my gender studies course as a PDF.

http://therapeuticconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/The-Gender-Binary-Theory-and-Lived-Experience.pdf

This article highlights the effects of the gender binary in relationships where one partner is trans. It has a brief introduction of queer theory and proposes its usefulness in alleviating anxiety around identity in relationships between queer persons. I plan to use this article to show the extent to which gender policing effects interpersonal relationships and our conceptions of ourselves. It is meant for a broad audience with enough emphasis on their work as therapists to potentially be influential to other therapists. This article has decent size bibliography. I found this article by searching “gender binary PDF” with Google.

https://globalstudies.trinity.duke.edu/wp-content/themes/cgsh/materials/WKO/v2d2_Lugones.pdf

This article describes the enforcement of the gender binary by colonialist empires. It is written as a critique of another author named “Quijano’s” work. It describes gender’s reliance on white supremacist norms to police itself. It also discusses gender’s role in capitalism and the construction of knowledge. I plan to use this article to discuss gender policing’s effects on racial stereotypes and its creation of “others” as mechanisms to empower and oppress. The language used is accessible and it has an extensive bibliography.

I found this article by searching “gender colonialism” with Google.

http://lauragonzalez.com/TC/BUTLER_gender_trouble.pdf

A PDF of Judith Butler’s book Gender Trouble. Butler argues that the idea of gender is created through language and built on presupposed knowledge of a pre-social self. Gender is described as derived from performance and exists in opposition to the universal masculine. I plan to use this source to highlight the importance of language in the creation and policing of language. The language used is very scholarly and not a light read. Butler cites and critiques other authors to conceptualize their work.

I found this PDF by searching “Judith butler gender trouble” with Google. VeygonKeesh (talk) 06:48, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Evaluation of Gender Policing Article
Evaluating the Gender Policing Article This article is very short. The topic is much broader than what is covered here. There is a section on the transgendered and public restroom argument, but there is no mention of the ongoing debate and politics surrounding it. The recent supreme court case ruling, or the various state laws implemented that counteracted the ruling were never mentioned, therefore it is out of date. The section about adolescent Gender Policing is tiny compared to the magnitude of the effect Gender policing has at the age when children are just discovering who they are as people. This article is also very biased, of the few articles in the work cited only two are used frequently, causing a large issue to be centered on the ideas of two individuals. Not to mention, all of the cited sources are at least six years out of date, but commonly older than 17 years, which is far too old to be relevant to the current discussion. The effect of Gender Policing on females, and the experience of it by females, is often trivialized in this article by the statement that it is more often used on and by males. The statement is used far too often in the article, and causes a gender bias. The statement may not even be true the gender policing of males may be more prevalent, but I highly doubt it is more common. Some sections are obviously choppy, and added in like comments instead of parts of the article. It would be far improved by more organization, and addition in content. Yune123 (talk) 21:00, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Peer Review
Your goal was to add to the Gender Policing article by providing more of an analysis of gender policing, its role in our society ,and its origin. I feel like you did a very god job elaborating on those things, and by not just stoping but adding a new section about gender and race and their roles as social constructs. I see some of the class examples coming into play, and I feel like you should use that as help and as your aid. Also running a grammar check will be good as well. Rexiipooh (talk) 07:08, 9 December 2016 (UTC)Rexesha Hollis

Bias
This articles seems to have many POV issues such as the use of the conspiracy theory of patriarchy as a fact.Brexit123 (talk) 23:59, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Um... "conspiracy theory of patriarchy"... ?  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 03:20, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright prove it exists. Brexit123 (talk) 21:33, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand what WP:NPOV is about then. The issue is does the article accurately represent the sources and in a neutral way. Not whether or not the article discusses something contentious.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:37, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Brief Evaluation of the Article
Composing an article on the subject of gender policing is a commendable task. Such a broad, expansive, and nuanced concept, its application and methods of deployment in society are lofty. The topic is aptly defined and, for the most part, takes into account the various contexts to which gender policing exists. I do enjoy the inclusion of the historical precedence and perhaps provenance of "gender" that is in display. Some suggestions that I have are on the article's content and balance. I feel as if some sections are overrepresented and others underrepresented. The frame of psychoanalysis does add context, but becomes more distracting more than anything else. Other sections, such as the fashion placement, renders itself a bit fringe to the central aspect of the topic. Additionally, and it is alluded to, but I think it would be helpful to include an independent space that briefly addresses the categorization of "gender" and how it lends itself and represents something different depending on its application. Cabranc (talk) 08:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Reverting Cathy Brennan polemic
Regarding this edit by User:Cabranc, which I have reverted: It seemed highly suspect to me that an article about a publication from 1914 could possibly be used to source information about what non-notable anti-trans activist Cathy Brennan "implies" about trans people. That is some decades before the term transgender was coined, let alone Brennan's birth. Not to mention, the edit gave no context to who Brennan is or why her opinions on trans women are applicable to the topic of gender policing. Her opinions on anything don't matter to this topic. Beyond that, the statement was half-incoherent - what does their living embodiment and representation even mean? So I accessed the source, and lo and behold, it only mentions trans topics one time, to theorize about a modern term that could possibly be applied to a historical figure. It had nothing to do with the statement about Brennan or about radical feminists at all! Cabranc, please (re)avail yourself of Wikipedia's policies on verification of sources, due weight, and, most importantly, the policies on writing about living people. --Equivamp - talk 00:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): VeygonKeesh. Peer reviewers: Gmwalker, Rexiipooh.

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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 19 January 2021 and 30 April 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Cabranc, Zatayl, Lewelch. Peer reviewers: BrittanyFreimann, Agraceb09, Kenyamulwa.

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Theme
I see at least the half of the article is not about gender policing itself, it's about queer theory, hegemonic masculinity theory and gender socialization in general. Today, there is a lot of articles about gender policing itself.Reprarina (talk) 22:28, 12 July 2022 (UTC)