Talk:General Data Protection Regulation/Archives/2018

Summary section: Direct quotation is unsupported by citation of source
Extended quotation in Summary section is unsupported by citation of source in a footnote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:154:4000:742E:DDDB:F1E2:4530:B40B (talk) 12:31, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Wrong quoting of quoted source
The key definition for this article, of personal information, may appear as if erronously copied from its source. This quote, is simply not a copy of its original verbatim form from its mentioned source:

"personal data is any information relating to an individual, whether it relates to his or her private, professional or public life. It can be anything from a name, a home address, a photo, an email address, bank details, posts on social networking websites, medical information, or a computer’s IP address."[7]

I'm new here, but I find this somewhat disturbing for the reliability of this Wikipedia page and similar ones. Maybe there have been multiple versions of the quoted source? anyway, a bit concerning.

No longer a proposal
The section "Content" starts with "The proposal for the European Data Protection ..." But for 18 months, this has not been a proposal, but a regulation (or "law", if you want). So this should be changed, shouldn't it? --User:Haraldmmueller 13:38, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ This is indeed the case, therefore I will change it. Droogstoppel (talk) 20:55, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Outside influence
Dear all,

Hereby I wanted to point your editors to the following piece; https://epic.org/2018/04/zuckerberg-confirms-global-com.html, where the reach of GDPR is wider as just European consumers. Other topics on the internet already suggested that this framework could be a referral piece of legislation for other law making entities. Since I am no expert in this topic I wanted to point this out for people known with the subject who could place it justly in the articles scope.

Greatings

Jasperwillem (talk) 06:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I have added a link to the Brussels effect. Implementation of GDPR outside the EU jurisdiction is an example of the Brussels effect and that entry mentions the GDPR as one of the examples. LeoVeo (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Reference broken
The following reference, #14 at the moment, is broken and provides no PDF document: Reference "Data protection" (PDF). European Commission – European Commission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignacio.Agulló (talk • contribs) 22:54, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2018
197.156.115.253 (talk) 00:22, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LittlePuppers (talk) 06:34, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Criticism
I am surprised there is no chapter on critisim - after all, there are plenty... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.220.70.134 (talk) 20:03, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Just research and add it ... BTW, in the German WP, we had the opposite problem: The whole article contained essentially only critical information, but nothing whatsoever about the GDPR's contents; so I rewrote it ... --User:Haraldmmueller 20:24, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It's clearly there, and the topic is big enough that criticism should not be given undue weight. Much of it comes from US services and companies, which is already somewhat undue. Prinsgezinde (talk) 22:49, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Data is plural
The word data is the plural of datum. Throughout this article data has been used as a singular noun. However the English version of REGULATION (EU) 2016/679 OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL, i.e. the General Data Protection Regulation, to which the article refers, correctly differentiates singular from plural. FussyBSM (talk) 03:24, 31 January 2018 (UTC) http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32016R0679&from=EN
 * Umm, no. See Data (word) - data in this sense is an uncountable mass noun. It is perfectly proper to write "data is available" and not the awkward-sounding "data are available". Wikipedia does not duplicate the writing style of EU regulations, but writes encyclopedia articles. Mauls (talk) 19:25, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * One of the signs of a word being fully assimilated - people argue over whether it should comply with source language usage, formal English or colloquial English. Jackiespeel (talk) 15:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * "Data are available" sounds perfectly normal to me. "Data is available" seems like a reference to the Star Trek character or merchandise thereof ("Data is available as either a 6 inch or 12 inch action figure.") --Khajidha (talk) 15:53, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Data is plural. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 05:21, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Dubious
Re "As the GDPR is a regulation, not a directive, it does not require national governments to pass any enabling legislation and is directly binding and applicable.[dubious – discuss]": This sentence is actually misleading. The GDPR actually is directly binding and applicable - this is true. However, it has a number of "open areas" where members states need to pass legislation to define more narrowly these open areas. I do not know whether a member state must pass such additional legislation - would Malta or Cyprus actually do this? Anyone has any information how many member states actually did pass such supportive laws, like Germany's "Bundesdatenschutzgesetz (neu)" or Austria's "Datenschutz-Anpassungsgesetz 2018"? --User:Haraldmmueller 07:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

You can unscramble the hashes of humanity's 5 billion email addresses in ten milliseconds for $0.0069
Given that many companies are using hashed emails as a way to comply with GDPR, this seems important to point out

https://boingboing.net/2018/04/09/over-the-rainbow-table.html

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 07:43, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Could companies not salt the hashes? Jasperwillem (talk) 06:34, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * This problem can solved easily by adding a secret 256-bit salt, this can prevent unhash and rainbow table lookup, which make you unscramble one email address from one millisecond to a billions of year, even use a supercomputer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.64.240.140 (talk) 03:05, 7 November 2018 (UTC)