Talk:General Zod

Possible Cross-link
There should be a cross-reference here to the fact that General Zod has a mock website nominating himself for president. The website is: http:\\www.Zod2008.com. This is mentioned in List of fictional United States presidential candidates, but it would be good to have it here as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.27.16.90 (talk) 18:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Allies
Is there any particular reason why Zod's allies from Superman II are at Ursa (villain) and Non (Superman II)? It seems to me that they ought to both have the same parenthetical disambig, but I'm not sure which of them to move. Any thoughts? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 00:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)


 * The Ursa entry seems to suggest that she was an existing character from the comics, while Non was just in the films. (This, I assume, is the reason for the difference). However, I'm not sure that's true.


 * I think moving them *both* to " (Superman villain)" might be the way to go, but I'm not sure. Daibhid C 23:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Overlinking
Is there any reason why things such as "Phantom Zone" and "Superman" have to be linked over and over and over again, not just in the same paragraph, but the entire article? I just feel its overkill. And I am linking them on this discussion page to illustrate my point. --vi 02:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Daibhid C 19:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * personally, i wish that linkable words were always linked in articles. if i'm reading something in the end of a long article i don't want to have to go scrolling up to find the spot where it is linked. --dan 06:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I can see that, but when "Phantom Zone" "Superman" and "Kryptonian" occur six times in one paragraph, and are linked every time, it actually makes it a bit difficult to read, IMO. A look at similar articles suggests that significant words are someimes linked once in each section, which might be the way to go here? Daibhid C 21:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Random Stupidity
Someone messed around with the Silver Age Zod entry. I have restored the text based on the prior 2 entries, which only conflict in a matter of grammar, I believe. At any rate, the content has been restored, but not the formatting. JDudeman 20:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Donner Zod
The only reference I can find to this is this Newsarama interview in which Donner says "We are kind of doing what we’d do for our take on another movie with the first arc. You’ll probably eventually see Bizarro, Zod, Parasite, and some of the other classics re-imagined down the line too." 'Probably eventually' is not 'confirmed' by any stretch, so I think this section should be deleted unless someone can find a concrete reference. Cerv 01:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. CovenantD 02:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * With perfect timing this week's Action Comics features Zod. Go me. Cerv 13:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

What are we going to use as the main image?

Anon

Comparisons
Does anyone besides me see similarties between Zod and the Biblical character of Lucifer? Think about it. Lucifer was once an angel but he was cast out of Heaven into Hell alone with his fellow rebels by God for threatening to take over the universe. He later broke free and came to Earth to torment mankind and God's son. Likewise, Zod was a Kryptonian but he tried to take over and was banished from Krypton into the Phantom Zone by Jor-El along with his fellow rebels, Ursa and Non. Later he breaks free and comes to Earth to torment mankind and Jor-El's son, Superman. The story of Superman is heavily influenced by the mythical story of Hercules and the Biblical story of Jesus, this is particularly evident in the film, Superman Returns.

Anon

Hello is anybody actually listening?

Anon

No.

Optimus Sledge 17:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, yes, I had noticed a similarity between Zod and Lucifer. Likewise, Lex Luthor would serve as a proxy Antichrist in the analogy, particularly considering his portrayal during John Byrne's run on Superman, in which Luthor was a well-known businessman lauded by the general public for his entrepreneurial works. That Luthor considered himself humanity's benefactor and protector (or messiah, if you will), and presented himself as such to the public, but inevitably only worked towards the accumulation of power and wealth and the destruction of mankind's true protector, Superman. However, as this is not how Luthor is portrayed in Superman: the Movie, it is more likely that any Antichrist metaphor considered by Mario Puzo or Richard Donner would be a much broader one, in which Luthor is comparable to the beast only in that he has an unrepentantly evil personality (and, as I have heard occasionally made mention of in reference to the Antichrist, that he is bald).

itbegins2005

Yes, I'd seen similarities between Zod and Lucifer as well. Can't say I'd noticed the similarities between Luthor and th Antichrist until you pointed them out though but they are interestin. Zod's similarities to Lucifer are highlighted in the episode of Smallville in which the spirit of Zod takes possession of Lex Luthor and Lionel Luthor says to him "You've made a deal with the Devil, son." There are various other points in the episode in which Zod is compared to "Old Nick" actually but as interesting as this all is it falls under the class of OR and foruming so maybe we should stop. --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 22:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This is not a forum; please don't treat it as such. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 16:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Clean-Up
This page is containing a whole lot of perfeclty irrelevant banality-information that may be fit to be supplied in a fanpage or a special "Encyclopedia of DC trivia" yet is quite inappropriate for a regular encyclopedia - even one of the elephantine proportions of the wikipedia. For instance a reviewer of a superman-homepage contemplated changing his name into "Beforezod" - wow now that's important, we all need to know. I don't mean to imply one may not supply such data to those interested in them, but this is simply not the right place. An encyclopedia is meant to deliver the salient information on a keyword not every shred of ever so irrelevant information. After all if we tell the readers about the in-joke of Neal Adam's picture being posted next to the picture of Terence Stamp on fanmpages .. well we might just as well talk about the shoe-size of Stamp or alinasal coefficient of Zod in a given Superman Comic cause that's about the same level of importance if it comes to essentially know who zod is and what he is all about. So, long story short: Let's cut down this article to about half the size it is having now and banish all the nonsential fanboy-waffling from it.

Can we cut down the size of your complaint/comment? ZING! 129.139.1.68 (talk) 17:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Section Called 'Movies'
The section called 'Movies' seems to be pure fan speculation. Or just something that needs citations. One or the other. Lots42 (talk) 20:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Section issues
A couple of section issues:


 * We could do with a "Publication history" section dealing with appearances, character development, background, etc.
 * It strikes me that Russian Zod doesn't really fit - he isn't actually the character under discussion. At the best he might fit under other versions.
 * It looks like the "Phantom Zod" is also another version and shouldn't be in the main section either.

Just throwing the ideas out there for discussion. (Emperor (talk) 01:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC))

Actually those are both the same character. The DC Universe just continuously changes peoples back story. I have A DC Comics Encyclopedia and it doesn't even mention this ZOD just the Russion.ZODtheReaper (talk) 09:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Superman 2 section
Needs to have more info on Donner Zod. C'mon. :) (JoeLoeb (talk) 04:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC))

Smallville
That is WAY to long. ZODtheReaper (talk) 16:52, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * That's what she said. 129.139.1.68 (talk) 17:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Other versions
Zod also appears in a skit in an Australian show "Newstopia", can this be included in the 'Other Versions' section? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ9yYpUooiw Cheers, Swampy 121.218.26.19 (talk) 12:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Short for sodomite
Isn't sod short for sodomite. I just think it's funny. Can you imagine Superman complaining about that "stupid sod"? Or telling Zod to "sod off". 190.62.165.15 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:15, 21 August 2011 (UTC).

PNG
As I've explained in the revision history, I've replaced the picture because as a png it shows no artifacts as a thumbnail and the size difference is minimal:

thumb|left|250px thumb|left|250px LusoEditor (talk) 01:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It is not "minimal" to increase the size of the image, and the image use policy states that the jpeg format, not the png format, is used for television and movie screenshots. WP:NFCC and WP:Image use policy are both Wikipedia policies which deal with the legal matter of copyright, and changing the image goes against both of those policies.  That is why the change was reverted.- SudoGhost 01:55, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, the image size wasn't increased. I took a different promotional picture of the subject, cropped and reduced it's size to fit the image policy. It merely happened to have 10 more pixels than the existing one. LusoEditor (talk) 02:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Moving from jpg to png is still not appropriate per Wikipedia's image use policy. - SudoGhost 02:53, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

This article is ridiculous
What a massive pile of banal claptrap. This sort of thing would be perfect for a fanwiki somewhere, but Wikipedia? A general-purpose encyclopedia? No. For example: "The first Zod to be introduced following Crisis on Infinite Earths was the Zod of a Pocket Universe; this allowed for a 'Kryptonian' Zod to be introduced while maintaining Superman's status as the last of his race in the universe proper."

My eyes are glazing over.

No general-purpose reader will have a definition for most of the proper nouns in this sentence, let alone be able to piece together a meaning from it or the paragraph it belongs to. It isn't notable to anyone apart from those to whom it already very much is. It doesn't even have the benefit of real-world relevance, unlike (for example) an exhaustive piece on Soviet self-propelled artillery. It's noise. 173.163.203.241 (talk) 04:33, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

All articles about specialized topics will have to use technical terms from that field on some degree. Someone who is reading about General Zod is likely to have an idea of concepts such as crossovers, alternate universes or fictional alien races; and so it isn't explained in full detail. And, in any case, the presence of articles on fictional characters does not prevent the existence of articles on artillery or any other different topic. Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia Cambalachero (talk) 12:33, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Catchphrase
I think his catchphrase of "Squat before Zod!" should be mentioned somewhere in the article. I found it pretty hilarious, at least in the two Donner/Lester movies. --79.242.203.134 (talk) 04:25, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

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