Talk:Genocide of Indigenous Australians

Utility of the article
Though I would have thought it goes without saying, I am anticipating that some editors on this site might argue against the benefits of an entry on this subject.

In anticipation of the argument that this page could be subsumed within the pages: Frontier Wars, or List of massacres of Indigenous Australians; this page addresses a conceptually distinct topic.

The Frontier Wars page doesn't fully address the topic covered by this article, as it is historically bounded, and primarily only addresses one form of genocide. The list page also isn't wide enough in scope, because it excludes acts of genocide commonly described as such, that aren't massacres; one example being the eugenicist policies of A. O. Neville. Jack4576 (talk) 16:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Genocides can not be covered in an article about massacres. The concept of genocide is not limited to killing. Per the main article, it includes causing serious bodily or mental harm to the targeted group, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Dimadick (talk) 20:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree. Jack4576 (talk) 05:32, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Aboriginals
This rename from "Genocide of Indigenous Australians" to "Australian genocide of Aboriginals" and subsequent rewording of the lead sentence is problematic in that it uses "Aboriginal" as a noun, which is generally considered not appropriate, per WikiProject Australia/Draft style guide1 and WikiProject Australia/Conventions/Indigenous draft. It's also problematic in that "Aboriginals" (in the article title) excludes Torres Strait Islanders, but the article scope includes them. I'm not sure what the appropriate fix is (other than reverting). What are the "other articles" with "similar titles"? Mitch Ames (talk) 08:39, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree. It is problematic, and should be avoided/reverted. Additionally, there are Indigenous Australians that were subject to genocide (e.g. torres straight islanders) that are not generally identified by the term aboriginal. Jack4576 (talk) 11:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)