Talk:Geography of the Falkland Islands

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This article was merged into Falkland Islands in 2005. That article has expanded and it has been decided to demerge the section on geopgraphy. This artcile will be expanded while the section in the artcile Falkland Islands will be worked on to remove items that have WP:UNDUE, while at the same time itmes that are missing will be added. Martinvl (talk) 15:09, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Geography
For an article on geography, this article mostly focuses on flora and fauna. The sections on the topological description seems mostly unreferenced. There is a single reference for the description of "West Falkland", and the section on the "Smaller islands" manages to have no reference. There should probably also be some reference to the Rivers of the Falkland Islands and their location.

The section on Human Geography is quite well-referenced but has at least one curious claim. "In the last decade of the twentieth century and the early twenty-first century, tourism and fishing have made a major economic impact". According to the Economy of the Falkland Islands, the fishing industry of the islands has a longer history and even contributed to the near-extinction of local species in the 1960s and 1970s. Any sources on the subject? --Dimadick (talk) 17:40, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

South America - Continent or sub-continent
I have always been taught that North and South America are two separate continents, and that Africa is a continent on its own, but that South Asia is a sub-continent. In the case of the Americas, North and South America are geologically distinct, having only been joined three million years ago.

In the context of this article therefore, South America is not a subcontinent, but a continent in its own right. Martinvl (talk) 21:52, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It is the convention in most, if not all, English speaking countries that North and South America are separate continents. This is not the convention in some other countries, which view the Americas as one continent. However, this being the English encyclopaedia, we should go with the English convention, as all pages on en.wiki currently do. CMD (talk) 05:46, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

The islands are geographically part of the South American continent
The islands are geographically part of the South American landmass, in the same way Iceland and Britain are geographically part of the European continent. There are some people though whose intentions appear to be to erase or to conceal the mentioning of this important geographical fact. Please keep any personal motives out of Wikipedia, which is only a source of information.92.4.152.29 (talk) 21:37, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * What exactly are you whinging about? The opening line reads "The Falkland Islands are located in the South Atlantic Ocean between 51°S and 53°S on a projection of the Patagonian Shelf, part of the South American continental shelf and the continent of South America itself."  The text "on a projection of the continental shelf .... South America itself" states quite clearly that the islands are geographically part of South America and also describes exactly the way in which they are part of South America - namely that there is a large amount of shallow (but not deep) sea between the Islands and the coast of the rest of South America. The description, as far as I am concerned, is devoid of any political connotations whatsoever.
 * BTW, Iceland might well be part of Europe from a social and economic perspective, but is not geographically part of the European continent as it does not lie on the European continental shelf. Martinvl (talk) 22:37, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Great Britain is not simply located on a "projection of the European continental shelf". Both Britain and Iceland are European islands and are part of the European continent and have been so for well over a thousand years.


 * We are talking about geography and when I first read this article, there was no mention of South America in the description at all, so I have included that information. To my surprise Chipmunkdavis rapidly erased my input, with the strange justification that these islands "are islands" (view history).


 * Something odd is happening here, and it seems there is some kind of animosity towards the inclusion of this information.


 * The Patagonian sub-shelf has already been mentioned, so there should be no need to mention its primary continental shelf. We are not talking about continental shelves here. I have modified the information to include the description that these islands are a part of the continent of South America, which is factually and entirely true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.152.29 (talk) 01:15, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It is very common in English to describe islands as "X away from Y", where Y is a continental landmass. This is normal, and far more descriptive than "X is in Y". I note Galápagos Islands doesn't even mention South America in the lead, and describes the islands as "973 km (525 nmi; 605 mi) off the west coast of South America". This should not be a problem in the slightest. CMD (talk) 15:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The article continent has a description of a continent as "Conventionally, "continents are understood to be large, continuous, discrete masses of land, ideally separated by expanses of water." (I have emphasised the word "contiguous"). Since the Falkland Islands are islands, they cannot be contiguous with the rest of the land mass. For example, the article Contiguous United States excludes Alaska and Hawaii. Martinvl (talk) 20:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * You highlighted "contiNuous", not "contiGuous" ;) They are however synonyms in this case, so the point is sound. CMD (talk) 00:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It is also common in English language to describe such and such islands are part of or in such continent. Japan is an island nation in East Asia. Indonesia is an archipelagic country in Southeast Asia. etc etc etc. Stop making useless changes and giving nonsensical justifications. Wikipedia is not a place for your personal animosity towards South America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.94.76 (talk • contribs)


 * There's no-one here with a personal animosity towards South America, just people with preferences for more descriptive text. I suggest you take your "Stop making useless changes" to heart. CMD (talk) 11:32, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

This article is about geography, not about politics, so let's stick to geographical terminology. Martinvl (talk) 12:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Effects of the war on the Islands
Hello, Does anyone have any idea on the affect that the war brought on the wildlife. I was surprised to find it wasn't listed as an effects of humans.

Thanks 31.185.184.17 (talk) 21:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)Liam

There was an episode of QI where they had a question that asked "what happens when a penguin steps on a landmine?" The answer was nothing, but they went on to say they knew this because there were landmines put down by Argentina when they occupied the Falkland Islands in 1982. Before the Falklands War, Falkland Islanders would take the penguins as their food, but since the area where the penguins live is now a minefield, they can't go and get the penguins, so the penguin population is now rising. I'm not going to edit the article because I don't think QI is a valid source, but I might do some research later to find a valid source to use. Ezza1995 (talk) 04:38, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The Falkland Islanders don't eat penguins, don't be silly. WCM email 08:34, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

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date that Falklands separated from Africa
The first paragraph states: In ancient geological time this shelf was part of Gondwana, and around 400 million years ago split from what is now Africa and drifted westwards from it. Surely the separation happened during the Cretaceous in the late mesozoic, and "400 million years" would place the event firmly in the early paleozoic. Should be something less than 140 million years. I do not claim to know exactly when this occurred, but definitely less than 400 mya, which would put it in the Devonian. Or perhaps I am mistaken? :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdadme (talk • contribs) 14:50, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

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Fix old things.
Currently falklands contains 3398 habitants. --Paul Ahyi (talk) 22:11, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * How do you know this? Cite a good source, and the article can be changed. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:09, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Chernobyl?
"This herd was the only herd in the world that was unaffected by the Chernobyl disaster."

Looking at the citation, I could not find any mention of Chernobyl or anything as definitive as this. Can we verify this? (I made this account just to ask this question, apologies if I did anything wrong) CrybabyBlue (talk) 16:18, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but the cite quite clearly states the following in the environment section this is the only commercial reindeer herd in the world unaffected by the 1986 Chornobyl disaster;. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 19:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)