Talk:George Foreman Grill/Archives/2012

Cleaning Criticism
I hear people complaining all the time about how they don't use their George Foreman Grill because it's too hard to clean.

It has to be cleaned while it's hot! Take a damp cloth, plug in the grill and wipe. That's it. Everything slides right off no matter how hard or old or crusted or black it might be. It's the easiest thing to clean.

P.S. I realize this doesn't belong on the discussion page of an encyclopedia. Pdelongchamp 20:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC) it is crap to clean so get a Georgino 4man cleaner CLOTH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.47.202 (talk) 05:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Most encyclopedias don't have discussion pages, so who cares. I'll try that next time I clean the grill. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.189.116.168 (talk • contribs).


 * Use aluminum foil. Eureka! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.195.82.77 (talk) 03:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Somewhat overdone introduction
Note that "The George Foreman Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine" is a broad title. If that is really the name of the product, the page's file name should be changed.


 * It is... it should be changed... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.238.179.182 (talk • contribs).
 * Note that Wikipedia policy is generally to use the most common name, not the "full" name (e.g. Bill Gates, not William Henry Gates III). I doubt anyone who's not a marketer actually calls the thing George Foreman Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine, even if that is its actual name. A quick Google search suggests "George Foreman Grill" is indeed the most commonly used name. Frankly, I think using the whole phrase as the title would look silly; before you know it we'll have to put © and ® in titles... 82.92.119.11 13:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

My understanding is that the "most common name" is the "George Foreman Grill". The "Lean, Mean, Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine" is more of a subtitle introduced purely for marketing to people who need less fat in their diet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Buyout
Didn't Salton have to buy the rights from George because they were losing so much money paying him per grill? --Liface 21:44, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Did Sulton invent the grill?
Would I be correct assuming that George himself did not came up with the design and is only the spokesperson for grill. I think this should be made clear as I was previously under the mistaken belief that the design was George's idea and Sulton was simply contracted to manufacture it. --Cab88 15:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it just me
or is this article written like an advertisement? It doesn't seem very NPOV to me. --Machriderx 17:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * In an episode of Sex and the City, Carrie's boyfriend Aiden (John Corbett) surprised Carrie with fajitas on his "George Foreman Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine" - he used the entire name of the grill when describing it to her.


 * i believe that is what is known as product placement, they were probably paid to use that particular item--71.138.143.4 14:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I based the undo on the previous user on My discussion with T-Rex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samuel Curtis (talk • contribs) 15:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine
It does remove a little more fat than the normal grill because it heats up slower. What happens is the fat has more time to seep out because this grill does not sear the fat in like conventional grills. This is shown in Good Eats, Episode EA1E12, "Scrap Iron Chef". After Alton Brown makes bacon from scratch, he bakes the bacon in the oven. He places the strips of bacon onto a sheet pan fitted with a rack, then places that into a cold oven. He turns the oven to 400 degrees F, then explains if you want the bacon to be less lean, to preheat the oven instead. He explains that allowing the oven to preheat with the bacon in gives the fat more time to cook out. So the grill does cook leaner because it takes the meat longer to heat up than over a hot flame. --JRTyner 17:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Foreman didn't invent the grill
Foreman didn't invent the grill as the page implies. Terry "Hulk" Hogan publically stated he and Foreman were approached by their mutual talent agent to promote either the grill or a blender. Hogan didn't respond to the offer quickly enough and Foreman ended getting the grill endorsement contract.

Rename?
OK, I understand Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine is the official full name of this appliance-- but even within this article, it is more referred as the George Foreman Grill. given the latter is also the name most people know about this, I wonder it should be renamed. -- Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  15:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Requested move
 Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine → George Foreman Grill — George Foreman Grill is a more well-known name for this appliance than Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine, to the level that within this article, the subject is referred as a George Foreman Grill and the official product website igrillwithgeorge.com refers to the products as the more George Foreman Grill than Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine:







Foreman himself did talk about "grill" but not "Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine."

Hence I think George Foreman Grill is correct on both most common name and self-identification grounds. — Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  16:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.


 * Support as nom.-- Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  16:15, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Um, I just moved this completely arbitrarily without realising there was a requested move. If there's any objections, let me know on my talk page, otherwise it can stay at the new name. Neil  ム  15:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Requested move closed. Again, let me know if any issues. Neil   ム  08:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

in popular culture
Exactly how is the current "in popular culture" list an example of popular culture items? It's just a list of tv show episodes that mentioned the product. If it's worthy of notation, it's worthy of rolling into the article. Otherwise it's a list of factoids for trivia pursuit --71.138.143.4 15:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The popular culture list is longer then the article about the product itself. the "in popular culture" section of the list just encourages people to contribute bulleted tangential entries that do not contribute to a better understanding about the main article. If anything, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=george+foreman+grill+site%3Alivejournal.com says more about the grill in popular culture then a list cartoons, movies and comics that mention the grill. See the discusson in the article. --71.138.143.4 20:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem is, the realibility of such sources are no better than such quotes, sadly. An individual's blog is hardly a reliable source-- but I'd look into it. Also, please be noted that all talk page discussions should be put chronologically. -- Samuel di  Curtisi  di  Salvadori  04:09, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Reviews from Consumer Reports or something would be nice.
Right now we only have one side of the story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.201.150.130 (talk) 00:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Nickelback "popular culture" insertion
I removed the above mention because a) it was unsourced, and b) it was pointed to on Fark with a note regarding how to best insert vandalism without being caught. Unless it's sourced, I suggest it stay out. Tony Fox (arf!) 22:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should do more homework before jumping to conclusions, Tony. --207.61.168.3 (talk) 18:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)