Talk:George Furness

Assessment
I'm sorry, but I can not assess this article any higher than a stub while in it's current state...
 * There are no references. See WP:V and WP:RS for more info
 * It needs an infobox. See Infobox Person or a more specific one
 * It needs some wikification work, specifically a stong lead paragraph. See WP:LEAD

Please work on these issues (templates have also been added to the article), and feel free to leave me a message if you need help... - Adolphus79 (talk) 21:25, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. You know, I am only a twelve year old boy! A very clever one though! &lt;{:ursulanium:}&gt; (talk) 22:34, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, it's a great start, no matter your age... just make sure to find some reliable sources to verify what you have written... - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I added an infobox,. --Auric (talk) 18:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help! &lt;{:ursulanium:}&gt; (talk) 17:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

New assessment
The article is certainly better, but needs improvement in referencing and style. Please use references to improve the article by adding at the end of a paragraph or sentence you cite. Please avoid subjective descriptions such as "magnificent", "terrible tragedy", etc. (I removed these two.) The pictures from the Brent Heritage website were added without indication of copyright ownership - one cannot simply release pictures in the public domain without owning their rights. They will have to be deleted (the pictures are: File:St Andrews Church Willesden.jpg, File:Chambers Lane.jpg, File:Parkfield Road.jpg, File:George Furness Grave.jpg, and File:Roundwood Park.jpg), except for those who are in the public domain, which are perhaps Furness' portrait and Furness with his workers. However, in the United Kingdom one has to proof the author died 70 years ago for this to apply, as described here: Commons:Licensing. Perhaps ask the website owners for information on the old pictures or for permission to use the newer pictures by having them send in an OTRS email as described here using an email template. The pictures from Commons are fine. Finally, remember, one can always look at other articles and adapt their structure to this article. Best wishes Hekerui (talk) 12:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I did not get File:Roundwood_Park.jpg from the Brent Heritage website! &lt;{:ursulanium:}&gt; (talk) 15:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You got it from londontown.com, which I indicated on the picture page. It's not free either, unfortunately, and the website says it's forbidden to use the picture. Hekerui (talk) 16:07, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, fine. &lt;{:ursulanium:}&gt; (talk) 17:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, where should the owners of the website send the information about the two old pictures? &lt;{:ursulanium:}&gt; (talk) 17:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't quite find how one sends it in for Wikipedia, I only know and have used the process for Commons, as I described above. Try to look at OTRS for more info or write me on my talk page when you have gotten permission by the person from the website, and I will move the picture to Commons and send in the permission. Or try asking one of the Wikipedia OTRS volunteers. Hekerui (talk) 21:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

In fact, I have just realised how stupid I am. I LIVE IN WILLESDEN! I am going to go around and take those pictures myself. Then I am the copyright holder, correct? &lt;{:ursulanium:}&gt; (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Indeed :) Hekerui (talk) 21:13, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

New assessment (2)
Hi. There is a lot of good material but this article is not yet B Class, the paragraphs are not organized enough and there is unnecessary material (his whole gravestone) and lists are not well incorporated (see Lists). The picture gallery needs an intro as well. Overall, several sections could be easily put together to make the writing more concise. There was no evidence produced that File:George Furness and Team.jpg is public domain, so I tagged it for deletion. The same is unfortunately true for his portrait. All the best Hekerui (talk) 15:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

George James Furness
As this son has not yet got an article of his own yet - how does he relate to the person of the same name at the same address High Sheriff of Middlesex the year after this GJF died? Jackiespeel (talk) 17:25, 11 July 2016 (UTC)