Talk:George Jones/Archive 1

Picture
Could someone find a more up-to-date picture? 24.159.43.93
 * Honestly, I think this picture is fine. I checked George Jone's web page, and the pictures there look very similar.  Unless, that is, you count his Marine Corps picture with the flat top. :) -- Dave C. 04:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Concert
I saw George Jones in concert years ago. Gringo300 02:41, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I've seen him twice in the past 10 years. He puts on a heck of a show for an older guy.


 * I saw George Jones in 2004 & 2005 and he does put on one heck of a great show! If you like country music then you will love George Jones! Alakey2010 5:32 PM, March 30, 2006.


 * I also seen George Jones in 2006 & 2007 and he still puts on a great show! I love seeing Jones in cocnert! Alakey2010 9:44 PM, 08 July 2007 (CST)

Discography
Let's try to get a discography that's more than just a link to his website. Rob 16:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * We can "steal" the discography from the website and cite it as a reference, as long as we don't copy the site's format. Raw information, including discographies, is not copyrightable; it yearns to be free! --TantalumT e lluride 22:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Well I have been putting his discography for a while now and I should be done soon!
 * Thank you,
 * Alakey2010, 05:09, 05 December 2006 (CDT)

Non Compliant?
What about this is NPOV? Why the tag? pm_shef 22:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I put the tag on due to that someone was putting false info about George Jones and I had to clean it up! Alakey2010 5:30 PM, March 30, 2006


 * I took off one tag today. But I keeped one. Alakey2010 5:22 PM, April 08, 2006


 * All tags are off as of right now! Alakey2010 05:51 PM, 24 June 2006

Trying To Find Out About A Vehicle That Everyone Has Told Was Owned By George Jones
I have a 1990 GMC van that 2 people has told me that it was owned by George Jones. How can I find this out. Any help here e-mail me at wsmth15@aol.com

What Is Wrong With Some People???
People have been putting dumb stuff on George Jones' page I don't who it it but I would like it to stop!!! This is the 2nd time I had to clean up George Jones' page that is why I put this tag on...once again! - Alakey2010 Monday, May 01, 2006 4:35 PM.


 * Simply adding a tag will not protect a page from editing. If you want an article protected, you can make a request on Requests for page protection, and an admin will look at the page history and protect it for a few hours or a day or two if it looks necessary. But we really try to keep Wikipedia articles open for anyone to edit, so there really has to be a lot of vandalism (many times a day at the very least) for a page to be protected.
 * But I understand your frustration when seing this page and your edits being vandalised, and it's too bad that some of it took many hours to be discovered and fixed. I'll add this page to my own watchlist now and help spot it sooner in the future. Shanes 04:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Plagurism?
The wikipedia entry reads, under the heading "appraisal": "Initially Jones was a hardcore honky-tonker in the tradition of Williams but over the course of his career developed an affecting, nuanced ballad style. In a career that has spanned 51 years, he has seldom left the top of the country charts, even as he suffered innumerable personal and professional difficulties. Only Eddy Arnold can rival him for hits, but Jones has always remained closer to the roots of hardcore country than Arnold."

The allmusic.com biography reads: "By most accounts, George Jones is the finest vocalist in the recorded history of country music. Initially, he was a hardcore honky tonker in the tradition of Hank Williams, but over the course of his career he developed an affecting, nuanced ballad style. In the course of his career, he never left the top of the country charts, even as he suffered innumerable personal and professional difficulties. Only Eddy Arnold had more Top Ten hits, and Jones always stayed closer to the roots of hardcore country." 

These seem awfully close.
 * Yup, it sounds like plagarism to me.... Hayford Peirce 03:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've just review both the site and the Wiki article and it looks to me as if an awful lot of the article is outright plagarism. I think I know who did it, but I won't say anything.  But most of the G.J. article obviously has to be removed.  Sigh.... Hayford Peirce 03:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * NO NO NO!!! THERE IS NO PLAGURISM!!! I PUT MY BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS INTO THIS PAGE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL ALLMUSIC.COM IS???!!!

You wouldn't call this plagarism? The top quote is from allmusic.com; the second quote is from the Jones article that you supposedly "wrote". Stealing the exact words from a copyrighted Web site is not "writing" or "researching" -- it is stealing, which, in literary terms is called "plagarism." Almost all of the other Jones biographical info you put in was also stolen directly from the allmusic site. You should be grateful that none of us have notified any Administrators about your behavior. If it comes to their attention you will almost certainly be banned from Wikipedia.


 * "Like his discography, Jones' personal life was spinning out of control. He was drinking heavily and began missing concerts. His second wife, Shirley, filed for divorce in 1968, and Jones moved to Nashville, where he met Tammy Wynette, the most popular new female singer in country music. Soon, Jones and Wynette fell in love; they married on February 16, 1969. At the same time Jones married Wynette, tensions that had been building between Jones and longtime producer Daily culminated. Jones was unhappy with the sound of his Musicor records, and he placed most of the blame on Daily. After his marriage, Jones wanted to record with Wynette, but Musicor wouldn't allow him to appear on her label, Epic, and Epic wouldn't let her sing on a Musicor album. Furthermore, Epic wanted to lure Jones away from Musicor. Jones was more than willing to leave, but he had to fulfill his contract before the company would let him go."


 * "Like his discography, Jones' personal life was spinning out of control. He was drinking heavily and began missing concerts. His second wife, Shirley, filed for divorce in 1968, and Jones moved to Nashville, where he met Tammy Wynette, the most popular new female singer in country music. Soon, Jones and Wynette fell in love; they married on 16 February 1969 in Ringgold, Georgia. At the same time Jones married Wynette, tensions that had been building between Jones and longtime producer Daily culminated. Jones was unhappy with the sound of his Musicor records, and he placed most of the blame on Daily. After his marriage, Jones wanted to record with Wynette, but Musicor wouldn't allow him to appear on her label, Epic, and Epic wouldn't let her sing on a Musicor album. Furthermore, Epic wanted to lure Jones away from Musicor. Jones was more than willing to leave, but he had to fulfill his contract before the company would let him go." Hayford Peirce 02:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Plagarism fixed
I have reverted to a much older version that I *know* was not the result of any plagarism of copyrighted material. I left in, however, all of the songs and awards towards the end of the article. I think that whoever did all of this plagarism undoubtedly did it out of good motives -- to make the article longer and more informative. The way chosen, however, is completely wrong. It is simply not possible to take material from another, copyrighted source, and to paste it into a Wiki article. A lot of work has gone into this article since the original plagarised material was added -- now, unfortunately much of it is gone.

Please do NOT revert this present version to the old, plagarised version. If you do, I will INSTANTLY notify an Administrator and ask him/her to do whatever is necessary to having the person making the reversion both blocked and banned. The extent of this plagarism is VERY serious and I am sure that all Administrators will take a correspondingly servious view of it. Hayford Peirce 17:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Date of birth
For some reason someone changed George's date of birth from the correct 1931 to 1925. I can't find any surces to support 1925, but all of these say 1931: http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/jones_george/bio.jhtml, http://www.countrypolitan.com/bio-george-jones.php , http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/jones_george/bio.jhtml.


 * He was born in 1931. He is 75 years old and if he was born in 1925 he would be 81. I know he was born in 1931 becasue on September 12th the Grand Ole Opry had a hugh birthday bash for his 75th birthday! – Alakey2010 19 October 2006 05:53pm (CDT)