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Question
I tried to remove some language that seemed odd, but the article appears to have been largely reverted to where it was before the banner was added. I wanted to ask to see if there was a reason why it is there? Proust in Fall (talk) 17:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If no one objects, I’ll see what else is needed to review? Proust in Fall (talk) 13:57, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Request for changes
I would like to request some changes to improve this article. I have a connection to Bruin Capital and declare that I will follow all rules for connected contributors.

The most critical update is that Bruin Sports Capital is now Bruin Capital, and the article should be updated to reflect this where appropriate. As I believe this is non-controversial I will implement this. The key areas are in the lead, Employer field of the Infobox, and in the Bruin Sports Capital section title, and I will clarify that “In April 2021, the company changed its name to Bruin Capital.” The following external references confirm this is the name now used by both media and company: https://www.sportindustry.biz/news/bruin-capital-unveils-new-brand-identity, https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-27/bruin-said-to-revive-plans-to-sell-1-billion-streamer-deltatre

This was ✅ ok. Duke Gilmore (talk) 03:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Secondly, the section on Bruin Capital is out of date and missing information. I suggest the following wording/sources to clarify any incorrect, incomplete, or out of date material:


 * In January 2015 Pyne founded Bruin Sports Capital with a $250 million investment[15] that came from Dan Gilbert, Nassef Sawiris, WPP, and other investors.[16] [new reference https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/sports/bruin-sports-george-pyne.html] Companies Pyne owns a stake in through Bruin Sports Capital include Deltatre, Engine Shop, Soulsight, Oddschecker, OverTier, and On Location Experiences Full Swing and TGI Sport.[17][18] Bruin Capital previously owned On Location Experiences and Deltatre, selling the former to Endeavor in 2020 and the latter to Bain Capital and Nextalia in 2022. In 2019 the company raised a further $600 million from CVC Capital Partners and The Jordan Company. [new reference https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/sports/bruin-sports-george-pyne.html] In April 2021, the company changed its name to Bruin Capital.

✅ Duke Gilmore (talk) 03:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

References for the above:
 * Engine Shop: https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/en/Journal/Issues/2015/11/09/Marketing-and-Sponsorship/Bruin-Engine-Shop
 * Soulsight: https://www.chicagobusiness.com/news/chicagos-soulsight-agency-purchased-new-york-firm
 * Oddschecker: https://www.sportico.com/business/finance/2021/bruin-capital-oddschecker-1234633775/
 * Overtier: https://www.svgeurope.org/blog/headlines/national-football-league-expands-partnership-with-bruins-overtier-using-deltatre-for-ott-tech/
 * Full Swing: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/26/business/dealbook/companies-vaccine-mandates.html
 * TGI Sport: https://www.sportico.com/business/tech/2021/stadium-ad-tech-bruin-tgi-1234625276/, https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/bruin-sports-capital-tgi-stadium-ad-tech-1234935646/amp/
 * Deltatre sale: https://www.sportico.com/business/sales/2022/bain-capital-deltatre-1234679518/ https://frontofficesports.com/bruin-capital-sells-sports-tech-provider-used-by-fifa-nfl/
 * On Location sale: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2020-01-02/endeavor-acquires-on-location-experiences

Thirdly, the Personal life section details Pyne’s notable athletic family members from older generations, but in the same vein his sons are also high-level footballers, playing for NCAA teams. This could be added as follows:


 * Pyne’s sons are college football players; his youngest son Drew plays for Notre Dame and his eldest son Brendan played/graduated with honors from Brown, then played at Buffalo. [new reference https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/news/drew-pyne-notre-dame-fighting-irish-football-quarterback-father-george-jack-coan-depth/, https://brownbears.com/story.aspx?filename=5_25_2016_2053&file_date=5-25-2016, https://buffalonews.com/sports/college/linebacker-brendan-pyne-to-join-ub-football-as-transfer/article_17eba4b3-065a-5b13-9077-740a5410799d.html]

❌ Not notable. Duke Gilmore (talk) 03:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for looking over these suggestions to improve this article Stoppat (talk) 16:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

@Stoppat Mostly done. please see comments above. Cheers. Duke Gilmore (talk) 03:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Duke Gilmore, happy new year and thank you so much for taking the time to read through this request, I really appreciate it. You noted that the second point which updated the list of companies Bruin owns/has sold for accuracy has been "Done" but there's nothing in the article history? Not sure what happened there but I'm very happy to implement that edit myself if it saves you time!


 * Thank you again for reading through this, the time and effort you put in are not taken for granted. Stoppat (talk) 18:43, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Request update
In the time since I made this request there additional coverage has been published supporting information which I think warrants inclusion in the article. I have made this into a separate request as the User who initially answered has not been online for a few weeks.

As one point in my previous request was marked Done but not implemented, I am assuming this is fine to add, please reply here if you disagree with my changes.

The Boston Globe published a profile on Pyne which confirmed the following information, which could be added in the 'Bruin Capital' and 'Recognition' sections respectively:


 * "As of 2022, Bruin Capital has made 27 deals in the fields of sports and media with a total approximate equity value of $3 billion."


 * "NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has described Pyne as "one of the most influential figures in global sports and entertainment the past 30 years."


 * Original: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/22/sports/george-pyne-sports/
 * Non-paywalled confirmation of content: https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2022/12/22/People-and-Pop-Culture/bruin-capital-george-pyne-profile.aspx

In September Drew Pyne was deemed notable enough for a Wikipedia article, so I have amended my previous proposed addition to focus solely on him and with a better reference:


 * Pyne’s sons are college football players; his youngest son Drew played for Notre Dame and is committed to playing for Arizona State in 2023. [new reference https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35287276/ex-notre-dame-qb-drew-pyne-transferring-arizona-state]

Thanks again for reconsidering this information! Stoppat (talk) 10:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 20:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, I appreciate the time you took to help! Stoppat (talk) 08:46, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Request for changes November 2023
I would like to request some further changes to this article. Again, I declare that I have a connection to Bruin Capital and declare that I will follow all rules for connected contributors.

In the section Bruin Capital, can the following addition be made to the end of the section: "In 2023, Bruin Capital acquired a majority stake in Proof of the Pudding, a catering and food service company in the hospitality sector."

Can the following bold text be added to the Personal life section between these two sentences:

"His brother, Jim Pyne, also played in the NFL from 1994 to 2001, making the Pynes the first family to play three generations of professional football. He is married to Helene Pyne, and they have two sons and two daughters. Additionally, Pyne's father-in-law, Paul Harney, was an American professional golfer who won six PGA Tour events, finished in the top eight at the Masters four times and was inducted into the PGA Golf Professional Hall of Fame."

Thank you!

Stoppat (talk) 17:36, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The information concerning Bruin Capital acquiring a majority stake in Proof of the Pudding would be more apropos to an article on Bruin Capital (if one existed). In any event, the mentioning of a non-notable company in a section of the article which already covers another non-notable company is not an improvement for the article. The information concerning Jim Pyne's family is likewise beyond the scope of this article's topic. Regards, Spintendo  05:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Spintendo thank you for responding. For the Proof of the Pudding, as there is no page for Bruin Capital, considering Pyne's personal involvement with this deal and the fact that Pyne founded Bruin, can I ask you to reconsider the addition on relevance grounds? I can provide additional media coverage if needed to demonstrate notability:
 * This source also confirms that POTP catered the 2018 Super Bowl, which helps to indicate why the company is notable to sports media.
 * There is more coverage of the deal but I don't want to spam unless further articles are needed.
 * Also, my mistake, the second part of the request relates to George Pyne, not his brother. Would the below work instead?
 * Also, my mistake, the second part of the request relates to George Pyne, not his brother. Would the below work instead?


 * "His brother, Jim Pyne, also played in the NFL from 1994 to 2001, making the Pynes the first family to play three generations of professional football.
 * [add in line break]
 * George Pyne is married to Helene Pyne, and they have two sons and two daughters. Additionally, Pyne's father-in-law, Paul Harney, was an American professional golfer who won six PGA Tour events, finished in the top eight at the Masters four times and was inducted into the PGA Golf Professional Hall of Fame."


 * The text in the paywalled article supporting this reads as follows: "Sprinkled into the itinerary were stopovers in South Bend, Ind., and elsewhere so he [George] and Helene could watch Drew Pyne play. Each year's travel schedule is built around Pyne being present for all athletic and other activities of their daughters, [left blank as not in the public eye] and sons, Brendan and Drew [active in American college football].
 * I hope this makes more sense! Stoppat (talk) 11:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've added the information regarding the subject's spouse and children to the article and the article's infobox. The information regarding Bruin Capital, I don't believe to be relevant. The article can mention that he works there, but it shouldn't be giving additional details about the company. Regards, Spintendo  02:19, 7 November 2023 (UTC)