Talk:George Rowley (entrepreneur)

"In 1999, Pascal Rolland, founder of La Liquoristerie de Provence, released the first traditional and authentic absinthe, Versinthe in France. After one year of contact and discussion with the French and European authorities, Pascal Rolland opened the door to the production of absinthe. So La Fee absinthe was only launched in 2000 so they're classified as the second one to be launched on the French and European market."

It is apparent that some people do not believe what you have written, both above on this page and elsewhere. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Absinthe#Recent_Attacks_by_Versinthe

Rather than continuing to change all these pages back and forth every few days, can I suggest the following:-

1. Have this debate on the main absinthe talk page quoted above.

2. Stop changing the George Rowley and La Fée pages.

3. Provide sources for your claims on Versinthe. While Versinthe may have been launched in 1999, there is some doubt as to whether it was really an absinthe at that stage. Absinthe does not contain sugar and the Versinthe that was sold in France in 1999 did contain sugar, didn't it? Alanmoss (talk) 11:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Additions to George Rowley page
I am planning to make additions to this page as I had done previously but with some parts taken out. My previous changes were deleted. This time I would like to simply add basic information charting George Rowley's career moves without extensive links. The reason there were so many links previously was that I thought every statement had to be backed up. Does any one oppose that I make these changes?

Bayford (talk) 09:28, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

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Failure to satisfy the above criteria and the continuation of using this article as a non-neutral platform for self promotion and advertising is grounds for deletion. Vapeur (talk) 13:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

== Proposal to delete George Rowley page strongly

At best, George Rowley seems to be notable (if at all) for just one event: helping to bring absinthe back into North West Europe (in fact it was available in the Czech Republic and Spain before he imported his first product from the former). There is already a brand page which is related to the event and WP policy suggests that in cases where someone is notable for just one event, the article relating to the person responsible for that event can be deleted. I quote: "Another issue arises when an individual plays a major role in a minor event. In this case, it is not generally appropriate to have an article on both the person and the event. Generally in this case, the name of the person should redirect to the article on the incident, especially if the individual is only notable for that incident and is all that that person is associated with in source coverage."

Can we delete? Horseshoe123 17:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horseshoe123 (talk • contribs)

This article has been rewritten by its creator such that it contains blatant advertising. The creator of the article has rewritten it in such a manner on multiple occasions, despite warnings being issued. The web reveals that a heavily referenced 'source', Marie-Claude Delahaye, is indeed a business partner of the subject. More interestingly, the creator of the article's username is "Bayford", which the web reveals to be the name of both the village and street where the subject of the article resides. Coincidence? Most of the content of the article consists of advertising that unquestionably aims to promote a company, individual, and products. The content of this article yet again satisfies criteria for speedy deletion (CSD G11). A speedy deletion notice has been posted to the creator's talk page. Vapeur (talk) 23:15, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

This page remains blatant advertising that seems to have been posted by the company owned by its subject. Even if that were not the case, there are two other reasons for its immediate deletion:

a) As listed above and in line with WP policies: "Another issue arises when an individual plays a major role in a minor event. In this case, it is not generally appropriate to have an article on both the person and the event. Generally in this case, the name of the person should redirect to the article on the incident, especially if the individual is only notable for that incident and is all that that person is associated with in source coverage."

b) Is the subject even that notable? There was a survey carried out by one of the absinthe forums in 2006 when there was little serious thought given to putting the subject into the top 25 "who's who" of absinthe: http://www.feeverte.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=3727 and I don't believe that he has become any more significant in the last 5 years.

I vote to delete. Horseshoe123 11:39, 3 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horseshoe123 (talk • contribs)

This page should not be speedy deleted because...
This page should not be speedily deleted because... I agree that this article requires a fundamental re-write, and will be doing this today, in accordance with your guidelines.

I would appreciate any comments following the re-write.

Thank you. --Bayford (talk) 09:05, 21 June 2012 (UTC)