Talk:George Streeter

Bias
Article is written in a biased manner, making assertions that are debatable. There is more to the Streeter story than presented here. http://www.capstreeter.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.61.31 (talk) 17:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Strange. Now it is biased entirely in the other direction, with absurd amounts of loaded language and more debatable assertions. Even though the article now seems to tell a more accurate sequence of events, it is nonetheless rather blatantly violating WP:NPOV. I'll fix it eventually if no one else does. Vorziblix (talk) 04:09, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

This article is insanely biased. Even if these assertions are true, this reads like Rhetoric. The OPENING sentence "From 1886 to 1921 Streeter spun lies, forged legal documents and used violence to wrest 186 acres (0.75 km2) of Lake Michigan shoreline away from its rightful owners. Failing in his efforts to defraud the wealthy landowners, he then turned to robbing the poor by selling them land that he did not own," is comically slanted. --StickerMug (talk) 17:08, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

This article desperately needs a rewrite to conform to NPOV standards. It may well be the case that Salzman's revisionist research article portrays history most accurately, but for encyclopedic purposes our article should not put this particular viewpoint at the forefront. This is one of the most egregiously biased article summary sections I've seen in years. --Dhartung | Talk 17:23, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Reorganize
As a biographic entry, breaking up this page into "Myth" and "Reality" does not make sense. It seems to further the previous editor's interest in getting their point across. Elements of both his legend as well as factual life can be incorporated into to the same timeline of his life. For reference on how a criminal bio should be treated on wiki, look at another infamous Chicagoan — John Dillinger. I'd be happy to make revisions. Let me know if anyone has additional thoughts. StickerMug (talk) 17:34, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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Revisiting article neutrality
This article may get some more attention of late, as this story was recently featured in a popular history podcast. While I am by no means an expert on this story, the framing of this article biases the point of view of the shoreline landowners and makes unsubstantiated claims to this effect. While it is certainly true that Streeter used fraudulent means to defend his claim, this does not mean that his other legal arguments were without merit, and the actions of the landowners and their agents were often equally underhand. Claims that Streeter was attempting "theft" of the land are unsubstantiated, and I have removed the one in the lead - furthermore, the framing of "myth" vs "reality" I think does not necessarily meet the burden to show that the events presented as the "reality" were strictly true, especially when some of the sources are newspaper articles from the time, while this was a matter of significant public dispute. I'd argue that this article needs re-writing and re-sourcing with more comprehensive and even-handed coverage. BlackholeWA (talk) 13:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't understand the objection to newspaper articles from the day as questionable. 2600:1008:B073:1972:99A1:3613:EC8E:2D03 (talk) 13:51, 2 April 2024 (UTC)