Talk:Georges Méliès

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Cleopatra link
The link leads to the page for the egyptian ruler, not the film. This feels wrong. I propose the link is removed until a page for the film is created (so it can lead there), alternatively that the sentence structure can be rearranged to make it clear that by clicking the link, you do not get to the subject of discussion.

Example, "Lumieres film Cleopatra (named after Cleopatra)" where the current link is only appropriate in the second instance. 195.24.29.51 12:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

European Fantastic Film Festivals Federation
The fact this organisation has named their main prize (the Melies d'Or) after G.M. should be mentioned, probably with a link to the EFFFF wikipedia page. 195.24.29.51 12:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Family
Gaston Méliès is listed as a reference, but the reader doesn't know why unless they go to his page. Also, Andre Méliès is mentioned late in the article and kinda comes out of nowhere. So maybe it would help to write a little bit about his family. Kkeurope (talk) 17:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ...and were his two children by the first or second wife? Valetude (talk) 23:28, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Factual Diagreement (How the archive was destroyed)
Article states: In 1913 Georges Méliès' film company was forced into bankruptcy by the large French and American studios and his company was bought out of receivership by Pathé Frères. Méliès did not grasp the value of his films, and with some 500 films recorded on cellulose, the French Army seized most of this stock to be melted down into boot heels during World War I. Many of the other films were sold to be recycled into new film. As a result many of his films do not exist today.

However in the BBC4 programme Paul Merton's Weird and Wonderful World of Cinema, it is stated that: "In 1923 the sad thing is that Melies had to leave this Pathe [sic]; he was so depressed that he dug a hole in his garden and burnt the 500 negatives of all his films."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rs132 [ref from: 52m58s] Programme available until 30/8/10

This comes from Serge Bromberg, who is currently restoring a rare reel of "Trip to the Moon" in colour.

92.235.233.36 (talk) 23:22, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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Title in italics
Why is Méliès' name displayed in italics in the title of the article? Jimknut (talk) 15:49, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Clarification needed.
"A print of the film was acquired by Thomas Edison, who then duplicated and distributed it in the United States, where it achieved financial success; however, Edison did not pay any revenues to Méliès."

The above sentence appears under his film career. I believe it refers to "A Trip to the Moon" but other films are mentioned in the intervening sentence so it is unclear which one it refers to. As written it appears to refer to a horror film mentioned immediately prior to this sentence. I would correct, but it is uncited so I'm not sure about this. 69.181.149.73 (talk) 17:25, 4 December 2011 (UTC)CaptainJohnson

Fixed.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:54, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

The Animatographe
Melies seems to have purchased one of the kinetoscopes that Paul had manufactured, a direct copy of the Edison kinetoscopes (which were not patented beyond America). Edison refused to co-operate with Paul, and the film camera was a closely garded secret. At this time, Edison was not interested in developing and marketing a projector. Consequently, both Paul's camera and projector were entirely his own inventions. The animatographe that Melies obtain had nothing whatever to do with Edison.

Train Guard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Train guard (talk • contribs) 12:00, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Pop Culture--Smashing Pumpkins: Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness, Tonight, Tonight
I do remember Billy Corgan, the singer from the Smashing Pumpkins, claiming in an interview with Rolling Stone that his album Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness and, especially, the video to accompany the song Tonight, Tonight was inspired by Melies' Voyage to the Moon. Unfortunately, I no longer have the magazine. Could anyone else confirm this? Watching the video, which is clearly in the same style as Melies' films, to the song seems to be at least as credible as describing a smiling moon in Moulin Rouge. (Emily) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.59.170.156 (talk) 07:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

For the link to the video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOG3eus4ZSo

(Emily) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.59.170.156 (talk) 07:45, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation
At present, the page called "Méliès" links to just two articles: this one, and one for his brother Gaston Méliès. Sure, Gaston was an important figure, but since Georges is by far the more famous of the two, shouldn't the word "Méliès" redirect from this article? That's what we've done for articles like Mozart and Bach, and it seems to make sense.--Lemuellio (talk) 19:03, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That makes sense to me. I'll be bold and switch things over.  Hoof Hearted (talk) 17:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Film titles
I'm not sure where the best place to post this is, but thought it would be most visible here. Why are some of Méliès film titles in French and others in English (see the template below)? I realize it's because that's how the articles are named, but I think they should be renamed to be consistent. It appears that the naming convention is to use the English translation of the name, with the French title in the first line of the article. And, indeed, most of the film titles in the prose of the article are styled by the English names. Hoof Hearted (talk) 18:12, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Referencing
Just a note about the recent edit: Miriam Rosen's encyclopedia article on Méliès is cited more than thirty times on this page. Since it's a lengthy source (eighteen pages of closely packed small print), WP protocol suggests that more specific citations should be used, so I went ahead and added them in. I used the RP template since it wouldn't disrupt the article's current citation style, but if somebody wants to move to a more flexible style (Template:Harvnb, for example), it would be fine with me.--Lemuellio (talk) 22:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Méliès and notability
I've added information to a lot of the Wikipedia articles for Méliès's films, but in view of how many of them are still redlinks, I think it's time for a general discussion on which ones are notable and how to cover all of them appropriately on Wikipedia. I've started such a discussion here: Talk:Georges Méliès filmography

If you're interested in Méliès, or especially in improving Méliès coverage on Wikipedia, please do weigh in.--Lemuellio (talk) 22:48, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Piracy By Carl Laemmle?
The film made Méliès famous in the United States, where such producers as Thomas Edison, Siegmund Lubin and Carl Laemmle had produced illegal copies and made large amounts of money off them.

Found multiple sources verifying claim of piracy by Edison and Lubin, but none mentioned Laemmle. The claim seems in conflict with Wikipedia article on Laemmle, which states that Laemmle did not enter film industry until 1906 - four years after Méliès' New York office was established to end piracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zahzuhzaz (talk • contribs) 10:23, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Since Laemmle isn't mentioned in the cited source, I've gone ahead and removed him from the article text. Lemuellio (talk) 14:23, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit reqbjuest on 4 May 2018
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When was he born?
There seems to be a lot of changing his birthdate from 1853 to '61. Which is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by An Inhumane person (talk • contribs) 23:49, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Could there be sources on Melies' contributions?
One of the first lines of the article says that Melies' movies are regarded among the most important early science fiction films. Could someone source that claim? Thank you! --FastcartCorp (talk) 18:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

500% of what?
In section 'Productions' it appears to claim that 500% of his films deteriorated. It is unclear what is actually intended. -- Verbarson talkedits 09:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)