Talk:Georgetown, Connecticut

Merge
I don't agree with splitting of the historic district. The locality should be the main focus of the article. The historic district is merely a subset (the more densely settled part) of the locality. The history of Georgetown is the history of the NRHP district. Why does the historic district need to be described separately? --Polaron | Talk 19:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Already discussed at Talk:Georgetown Historic District (Georgetown, Connecticut). Good grief, can't you give an editor a chance to carry through on a promised posting to a talk page (as promised in my edit summary at the main page).


 * I appreciate that you opened a merger proposal to discuss. It would have been disruptive and unhelpful to do more.  Let's discuss at the Talk page where i was opening the discussion, anticipating u would want to discuss it. doncram (talk) 20:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

List of properties in the NRHP district
9 Brookside Road Cape, Circa 1820 with modern commercial building 1985.

23 Brookside Road Gable Front, Circa 1870.

25 Brookside Road 19th Century Domestic, Circa 1850.

1 Church Street "St. John's House", Italianate, Circa 1859.

2 Church Street 19th Century workers' housing, Circa 1870.

3 Church Street Cross Gable, Circa 1890.

6 Church Street 19th Century Domestic, Circa 1870.

18 Church Street "Aaron H. Davis House", Italianate, Circa 1860.

20 Church Street "James Corcoran House", Cross Gable, Circa 1880.

23 Church Street 20th Century Domestic, Circa 1915.

30 Church Street "Church of the Sacred Heart", Carpenter Gable, Circa 1880.

30 Church Street Colonial Revival, Circa 1935.

30 Church Street "Pryor-Hubbard Memorial Hall", Circa 1965.

33 Church Street 19th Century Domestic, Circa 1860.

37 Church Street "Methodist Episcopal Church", Greek Revival, Circa 1867.

38 Church Street "Methodist Friendship Hall", 1904 (converted to residence).

40 Church Street Modern residence, Circa 1950.

49 Church Street "Hiram St. John House", Italianate, Circa 1860.

872 Danbury Road Gable Front Folkhouse, Circa 1880.

10 New Street 20th Century Domestic, Circa 1929.

20 New Street Cross Gable, Circa 1920.

24 New Street Bungalow, Circa 1915.

28 New Street Colonial Revival w. Docked Gable, Circa 1914.

31 New Street Modern Cape, Circa 1940.

34 New Street 20th Century Domestic, Queen Anne Influence, Circa 1925.

38 New Street Gambrel Cape, Circa 1928.

42 New Street Gambrel Cape, Circa 1935.

48 New Street Bungalow, Circa 1928.

49 New Street Gilbert & Bennett School, Beaux Arts Classical, Circa 1915.

5 New Street Ext. Gable Front Folkhouse, Circa 1913.

9 New Street Ext. Gable Front Folkhouse, Circa 1913.

12 New Street Terr. Modern Cape, Circa 1938.

16 New Street Terr. Modern Cape, Circa 1940.

17 New Street Terr. Modern Cape, Circa 1940.

20 New Street Terr. Modern Cape, Circa 1940.

7 North Main Street Gilbert Memorial Church, Gothic Revival(stone), Circa 1900.

7 North Main Street Gilbert Cemetery

15 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Garages

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Office, 20th Century, Cobblestone Bungalow, 1909

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Modern Office, 1953-1962

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Mill, 1894-1904

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Cafeteria, 1957

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Warehouse, 1956-1964

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Wire Weaving Building, 1908-1922

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Galvanizing Building, 1900

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Storage Building, 1904

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Loom Building, 1874

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett High Pressure Boiler House, 1904

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Pump House, 1904

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Low Pressure Boiler House, 1904

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Gatehouse, 1947-1951

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Warehouse, 1973

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Brick Factory, 1914

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Storage Building, 1956

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Galvanizing Building, 1909-1927

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Reverse Twisting Building, 1904

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Storage Building, 1950-1954

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Annealing & Rod Cleaning Building, 1900

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Rod Baker, 1900

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Laboratory, 1946

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Galvanizing & Morgan Wire Drawing Building, 1948

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Factory, 1909

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Galvanizing Building, 1910

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Service Garage, 1924

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Blacksmith Shop, 1900

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Paint Shop, 1900

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Dam, 1874

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Dam, No Date

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Bridges: 2 concrete, 2 steel, 1 enclosed, 1 timber railroad, No Date

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Pump House, 1973

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Storage Shed, 1974

20 North Main Street Gilbert & Bennett Water Storage Tank(100,000 Gal. Cap)., No Date.

43 North Main Street Georgetown Post Office, circa 1880

50 North Main Street W.R. Smith House, Victorian Cottage, 1860

North Main Street B. Bennett Store, ca. 1850, Victorian Detailing, ca. 1860, converted to Private Residence ca. 1900

North Main Street Carriage house, ca. 1880 (converted to private residence).

61 North Main Street Gable Front Domestic, ca. 1860

20 Portland Avenue 19th Century Domestic, ca. 1860

20 Portland Avenue 19th Century Domestic, ca. 1840

32 Portland Avenue Cross Gable, ca. 1911

44 Portland Avenue Bethlehem Lutheran Church, ca. 1908, modernized 1950.

44 Portland Avenue Bethlehem Lutheran Rectory, Cross Gable ca. 1900.

56 Portland Avenue Gable Front Folkhouse, ca. 1898

58 Portland Avenue Cross Gable, ca. 1890

62 Portland Avenue Gable Front, ca. 1900

66 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Gable Front, ca. 1870

66-68 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Revival Duplex, ca. 1925 (pent roof)

67-69 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Revival Duplex, ca. 1925 (Gambrel roof)

71-73 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Revival Duplex, ca. 1925 (Gable on hip roof)

74 Portland Avenue Modern Cape, ca. 1952

75 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1920

80 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1920 (Docked gable main roof and porches).

85 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1920

86 Portland Avenue Cross Gable, ca. 1900

88 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1922 (Gable on hip roof).

90 Portland Avenue Italianate, ca. 1880

95 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1920

96 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1920

96 Portland Avenue Olmstead House, Greek Revival, ca. 1850

104 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Four-Square Duplex, ca. 1922

105 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Four-Square Duplex, ca. 1922

106 Portland Avenue 20th Century Domestic, ca. 1920

112 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Cross Gable, ca. 1880

115 Portland Avenue Modern Residence, ca. 1964

122 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Four-Square Duplex, ca. 1922

125 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Four-Square Duplex, ca. 1922

132 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Cross Gable, ca. 1880

135 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Four-Square Duplex, ca. 1920

142 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Four-Square Duplex, ca. 1920

145 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1920 (Gable on hip roof).

152 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Cross Gable, ca. 1880

152a Portland Avenue Modern Bungalow (rear)

155 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1920 (Docked gable entry porches).

162 Portland Avenue Gilbert & Bennett Housing, Colonial Rivival Duplex, ca. 1920 (Docked gable entry porches).

20 Redding Road (Rt. 107) Colonial Rivival, ca. 1922

25 Redding Road (Rt. 107) Gable Front Folkhouse, ca. 1910

27 Redding Road (Rt. 107) 19th Century Domestic, ca. 1859 (possibly schoolhouse)

? Redding Road (Rt. 107) (noted as set back from the road) Villa Carolina, Ecletric alterations of a 19th Century house, ca. No Date

3 Smith Street C. Herbert Taylor House, 20th Century Domestic, ca. 1909

4 Smith Street Charles Glans House, 20th Century Domestic, ca. 1908

6 Smith Street 20th Century Domestic, ca. 1900

9 Smith Street 20th Century Domestic, ca. 1880

10 Smith Street Sears Roebuck Bungalow, ca. 1920

15 Smith Street Dr. Howard MansfieldHouse, Queen Anne, ca. 1894

16 Smith Street Frank and Emma BergforsHouse, 20th Century Domestic, ca. 1912

18 Smith Street Modern Cape, ca. 1940

3 South Church Street 19th Century Tenement, ca. 1870

4 South Church Street Matthew Gregory House, Greek Revival (possibly 18th C., ca. 1840

6 South Church Street Gable Front Tenement, ca. 1880

7 South Church Street Gable Front Tenement, ca. 1880

13 South Church Street Cross Gable, ca. 1912

16 South Church Street 19th Century Domestic, ca. 1870

17 South Church Street 19th Century Domestic, ca. 1888

21 South Church Street 19th Century Domestic, ca. 1870

22 South Church Street 20th Century Domestic, ca. 1930

25 South Church Street Cross Gable, ca. 1912

28 South Church Street Cross Gable, ca. 1879

31 South Church Street Queen Anne, ca. 1880

32 South Church Street A. Bennett House, Greek Revival, ca. 1860


 * Hey, where is this list from? It should probably be added to Georgetown Historic District (Georgetown, Connecticut).  I don't think it should be added to the current Georgetown, Connecticut article, anyhow.  There is discussion about a possible merger at Talk:Georgetown Historic District (Georgetown, Connecticut).  Followup should be there, probably. doncram (talk) 19:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Village or what?
The article describes Georgetown as being a village, and repeats the village term several times. I appreciate that the first usage of the term is now linked to Unincorporated community (Connecticut), so an interested reader can deduce that village is not a defined term. But, is there common usage (or any usage) of Georgetown being a "village"? There are no sources included yet showing any usage of "village", as far as i can tell. The first two external links refer to Georgetown without using that word. The second calls it the "Georgetown section of Redding". Some quick Google searching turns up other Georgetown Villages elsewhere, and also a "Georgetown Village Restoration, Inc." which is a nonprofit that hosts one of those external link pages. (Is Georgetown Village a name that it is now coining? I don't see its pages referring to Georgetown being a village however.)  And there is some Georgetown Village Condominiums project, but a condo complex name is a coined term. Overall, it looks to me that the article would be better if it described Georgetown first as being an unincorporated community, then saying that some refer to it as a village, assuming suitable references can in fact be found where the "village" term is used. doncram (talk) 21:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's all the same in Connecticut -- neighborhood, village, section of town. They're just synonyms for unincorporated community. If a locality is not a town/city/borough, it is a village/neighborhood/section of town. See also --Polaron | Talk 21:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, well, the readers of the encyclopedia, even many who live in Connecticut, do not necessarily know that in Connecticut the term village has no specific legal meaning. Repeating, I think it would be better to explain that this is an article about an unincorporated community which some term as a village.  Yes, i believe that there will be references that use the term village.  But, by the way, your google search turns up more hits which seem to define Georgetown as being a section within the town of Redding, i.e. just Redding.  Including the ones relating to a a new taxing district.  It would be relevant to describe that taxing district in this article and to clarify if it is all in Redding.  The article may need revision to describe what is currently known as (or becoming known as) the village of Georgetwon is a section of Redding, and to say historically the area of Georgetown has included sections of other town(s), if that can be supported with references.  Currently i am not seeing support for the idea that Georgetown the village is in more than one town.  I know Georgetown Historic District is in 2 towns, and I gather that Georgetown CDP is in 2 or 3.   It just seems obvious to me that if you want to describe Georgetown as a village you need to provide some support for the usage of the village term and some support for whatever boundaries you wish to define for it. doncram (talk) 22:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Because towns have primacy, if one town refuses some action, another town can't do anything about it. The new taxing district aside, look at the articles pertaining to history. Look at a history the settlement of the area. It is obvious it is a village as it is not a municipality. Any named locality that is not a municipality is a village. It's like you're insisting that articles on unincorporated communities in New York should not use the word "hamlet". This is the common local term. --Polaron | Talk 00:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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