Talk:Gerald Grosvenor, 6th Duke of Westminster/Archives/2014

Prostitutes, adultery and the British military ....
The facts are that "His Grace" had sex with prostitutes, this is the original News of the World article (Sunday, February 11, 2007) ( see below ). Regardless of what discussion have been undertaken before, Wikipedia is not censored and the details should be in the article. This is irrefutable information that has been printed in a national newspaper. The continual removal of this story from the article is a serious POV issue that shows that there is a clear agenda by certain editors to try an hide the fact that one of Britain's richest men paid for sex. It also questions the integrity of such editors that undertake these actions as they obviously have motives for not including such material in this article.

DUKE & THE HOOKERS: He pays for sex as soldiers risk lives By Ross Hall (11/02/07)

WHILE 900 courageous Territorial Army heroes put their lives on the line in Iraq and Afghanistan their multi-billionaire boss is home revelling in seedy sex with a procession of vice girls.

A News of the World investigation exposes The Duke of Westminster— Britain's richest man, Prince Charles' best friend, full-blown major-general and married dad of four—as a serial cheat and user of £750-an-hour hookers.

Our sensational dossier reveals how the Duke, Assistant Chief of Defence Staff Gerald Grosvenor, disgraced the record of 11,000 TA reservists sent to Iraq since 2003 as he:

'''- HIRED four prostitutes over the last six weeks to party at his posh West End mews house.

'''- RISKED blackmail and security scandal by revealing his name and Army connections to the girls.

'''- BRAGGED he knew how to find al-Qaeda boss Osama bin Laden.

'''- HAGGLED with one prostitute for a discount despite being worth an incredible £6.6 billion.

- DEMANDED sex without condoms—while bemoaning the fact his men have to be regularly tested for sexually transmitted diseases.

The 55-year-old Duke commands 250,000 reservists—including 138,000 young cadets who look up to him as a role model. Six of his men have died serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He stays in London three days a week carrying out his Ministry of Defence duties while wife Natalia lives at their vast country estate Eaton Hall 200 miles away in Cheshire.

But after clocking off from his Whitehall office he hires girls young enough to be his daughters to join him at his luxury home off Oxford Street—part of his massive property empire which includes over 300 acres of central London with vast swathes of Mayfair and Belgravia.

On THURSDAY DECEMBER 28 the Duke paid £2,000 to bed 26-year-old Lithuanian Zana Brazdek at the mews house.

She arrived at 5pm and left with a wodge of cash in an envelope marked Eaton Estates two hours later.

Zana, who was booked through an agency, said Grosvenor crowed about his Army connections and even attempted to haggle over her price. "I thought his conversation was quite boring," she said. "He talked about the Army, going to Afghanistan and bin Laden. And he wanted unprotected sex. I refused."

On TUESDAY JANUARY 9 the Duke arrived home around 1.30pm. At 2.45pm an Asian girl in black coat, knee-high boots and heavy make-up strolled up to his front door.

After a discreet glance over her shoulder to make sure no one was looking, she pressed the buzzer on the intercom system.

Moments later the door opened and she was ushered inside. An hour and a half later at 4.15pm the huge black door opened again and the Asian girl shuffled out, heading off towards Oxford Street. Bright and breezy the next morning, the Duke was out of the house and into his waiting dark green Jaguar by 7.30am.

He left the house wearing green military trousers, a white shirt and camel-coloured sleeveless jacket.

He was also carrying a riding crop and military jacket, which he carefully placed on the car's parcel shelf before getting into the rear.

The Duke puffed on a cigarette as his chauffeur drove him to the MoD building on the Embankment just before 8am. Armed security guards waved the vehicle through their gates and into the car park, which backs onto Whitehall directly opposite Downing Street.

The Duke's importance in Britain's military hierarchy was apparent on Tuesday, January 23, as he drove his Maserati sports car to visit the Army's tank training base in Bovington, Dorset—where Prince Harry spent four months last summer and Prince William is due next month.

But a week later the Duke was back at his London pad and up to his old tricks. At 6.20pm on TUESDAY, JANUARY 30, a blonde Russian hooker working under the name Stella pouted as she approached the Duke's door in a silky red dress and black boots.

When the door opened Stella, caked in thick blue eye shadow, provocatively strutted into the hallway to start her night's work.

About an hour and a half later at 7.45pm, out walked the girl. This time the Duke poked his head around the door to wave her off, as she puckered up and blew him a kiss.

He giggled and then watched as she wandered to the top of the road before flagging down a black cab to take her home. Next morning Grosvenor was up bright and early to report for duty at the MOD, with his chauffeur waiting outside at 6.45am.

This time he appeared in the same sleeveless top, a white shirt and black trousers, with his military pass strung around his neck.

And last week on WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 7 the Duke was dropped off at the house by his driver at 4.30pm. At 6.20pm, under cover of darkness, a brown-haired Brazilian girl arrived in a pink coat, clutching a small black handbag.

She pressed the buzzer and was quickly taken inside. After the usual hour and a half had passed the Duke saw the girl out. As he waved her off he was wearing just a brown dressing gown.

On Thursday it was business as usual, picked up and taken to the MoD in his Jag by 8am.

But the Duke—who is paid £240 a day for his Army role—faces censure when he returns to his desk tomorrow. For The Armed Forces Code of Social Conduct insists:

"The overriding operational imperative to sustain team cohesion and to maintain trust and loyalty between commanders and those they command imposes a need for standards of social behaviour which are more demanding than those required by society at large...and a requirement to avoid conduct which offends others."

Our revelations will raise serious questions about the Duke's position because of his access to top-secret military information.

And he has often proclaimed himself a devoted family man. In an interview he once vowed that he would never cheat on his wife.

"I don't need other women as a substitute," he said. "I immerse myself in work."

Huh - whatever the Duke did, bet a lot of the soliders are planning to do the same. False contrast. 2.28.140.201 (talk) 22:56, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Procurement?
Let's have a section on how all these land came into the possession of this man?

How his family came by it - when, how.. who may have suffered in order for them to get it.

I think it's important to know how to earnt so much of our landscape and how he can claim to "own" it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.174.4.130 (talk) 17:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You are remarkably unimaginative. He inherited it, and it probably, just by chance happened to be the case that one of his ancestors acquired chunks of uninhabited marshland that later became among the most expensive real-estate in the world.1812ahill (talk) 02:18, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Before anyone does this I would suggest that you read WP:SOAPBOX. --Simple Boba.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 17:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

We won't be investigating you either, or who may have suffered, or even *died in horrible agony* so that you may "own" your house. :) 2.28.140.201 (talk) 23:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Lead section?
Seems the lead section is almost entirely about his business dealings, from the rest of the article he seems to have a military career too, should be covered as well I think.

Regarding how he is mentioned throughout the article, it seems to consistently being with his title, as this: "After leaving Harrow School with a single O-level, the Duke failed the entrance examination to the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst."

I suggest that we change it to Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor which is his name. In the UK newspapers may use this form, but this is the English language Wikipedia, not the UK or any other country. --Ulflarsen (talk) 09:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

That would be rather wearing on the reader, the article is about him, and he is a Duke now, in any language. Referring to an articles subject by his current title, even if he has not had it his whole life, is common practice on Wikipedia.

Why did he get the Garter in 2003?
It says so in his awards list, some info on how this happened would improve the article. 2.28.140.201 (talk) 23:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The Queen chooses and she doesn't give a reason. Any attempt would be purely speculative even if we had a source as they would be speculating.Garlicplanting (talk) 14:45, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

A cheap (but enjoyable nonetheless) laugh at the expense of illiterate Wikipedians
"a wealth significantly greater than Queen Elizabeth"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.7.117.140 (talk) 07:12, 13 September 2014 (UTC)