Talk:Gerald Ronson/Archives/2011

Article Cleanup
I've made some major edits to the article.

I have tagged the article as unsourced for the most part. Perhaps some of the original editors could assist in finding sources. I've added a few.

I have removed some fairly biased comments on the efficacy of certain organisations as violating WP:NPOV. The factual information has been retained.

I have made some further grammatical improvements.

Perhaps editors with more familiarity with the subject matter and more experience improving WP articles could assist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beganlocal (talk • contribs) 14:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've added a puff piece from the Jewish Chronicle on his book, and several references on his appeals. For some reason the case list had ended with the European Court (where he won a moral victory of sorts), and said nothing about the UK criminal appeals in 2001 and 2002 that he lost. As of today there is nothing libellous in the article.86.46.223.130 (talk) 08:15, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

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Gerald says that he worked for his father at 14 years of age. At that time, this would have been illegal. Possibly he worked part time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 14:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Additions and corrections
I am from Heron International’s PR agency and I would like to update this article and correct some inaccuracies. I have listed below my proposed changes to make the information as accurate, complete and up-to-date as possible. I do not believe these changes are promotional and I have backed them up with links wherever possible; however, if anyone objects to any of these changes please do let me know and I’ll be happy to discuss them:

- We would like to add that Heron’s notable developments include Heron Tower, an office development and the tallest building in the City of London (http://www.tallestskyscrapers.info/london-heron-tower.php) and The Heron, a development of luxury apartments in the City of London (http://www.theheron.co.uk)

- Heron is not actually the company controlling the petrol stations – this is a separate business called Snax24. We would therefore like to amend the second sentence of the first paragraph to read ‘The company expanded into property development, at first with small residential projects…’, and move the information regarding self-service petrol retail outlets to the end of this paragraph, mentioning that these are controlled through a separate entity, Snax24.

- We would like to add information on two more recent business ventures: Ronson Capital Partners is an investment firm he established to invest opportunistically in real estate assets in the UK (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0dccaf96-639f-11e0-bd7f-00144feab49a.html, Ronson Sets Up Investment Group, Financial Times, 2011-04-10, retrieved 2011-12-22); and Rontec Investments is a consortium comprising Snax24, Investec and Grovepoint Capital, created to acquire the assets of Total Oil UK (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jun/21/total-deal-comeback-gerald-ronson The Guardian, Total Deal heralds comeback for veteran forecourt retailer Gerald Ronson, 2011-06-21, retrieved 2011-12-22)

- We would like to add in information about philanthropic work, along the lines of: ‘Gerald Ronson is a recognised philanthropist and his current positions include: Founding Chairman of the Community Security Trust (http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/48281/cst-represents-all-jews CST Represents all Jews, Jewish Chronicle, 2011-04-29, retrieved 2011-12-22), Vice President of the NSPCC (http://www.nspcc.org.uk/get-involved/thank-you/our-vice-presidents/our-vice-presidents_wda73192.html NSPCC: Our Vice Presidents) and President of JCoSS. (http://www.jcoss.org/jcoss-people JCoSS People, retrieved 2011-12-22)'

- We would like to add information about awards, along the lines of: ‘He has won a number of business and property awards, including, most recently, City AM’s Personality of the Year Award in September 2011 (http://www.cityam.com/the-capitalist/personality-the-year City AM, Personality of the Year, 2011-09-22, retrieved 2011-12-22). In 2009, His Majesty King Juan Carlos bestowed Gerald Ronson with the Encomienda de Numero of the Spanish Order of Civil Merit Decoration (http://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/gerald-ronson-awarded-the-encomienda-de-numero-of-the-spanish-order-of-civil-merit-decoration/3135338.article Building Design, Gerald Ronson awarded the Encomienda de Numero of the Spanish Order of Civil Merit Decoration, 2009-03-06, retrieved 2011-12-22). In the same year, he was awarded an Honorary Doctorate of Civil Law from Northumbria University. (http://www.northumbria.ac.uk/browse/ne/uninews/honourbusinessman?view=Standard&news=archive Northumbria University, Honour for Leading UK Businessman, 2009-07-22, retrieved 2011-12-22)’

--Ek00001 (talk) 16:07, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the willingness to discuss. Most of those suggestions seem reasonable. The only one I'm not keen on is the first: is it really necessary to list Heron International's notable developments when their own article already does so? The second link might also be better avoided as it isn't independent of the topic, especially since independent media coverage seems to exist for the development. I would also suggest that you read Conflict of interest, our policy on what to do if you have a personal association with an article's topic, before you start editing to reduce the risk of problems in that area. Alzarian16 (talk) 12:16, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for this - I've updated the article in line with the changes described above, except for the recent developments which I haven't included following your comments. --Ek00001 (talk) 10:28, 28 December 2011 (UTC)