Talk:Gerard Muirhead-Gould

Impossible date
Very unlikely that Muirhead-Gould went to Wilhelmshaven in September 1944, as the port was not captured before 5 May 1945. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelmshaven His last post was Flag Officer-in-Charge, Western Germany. Source: The Times, Saturday, Jun 30, 1945; pg. 6; Issue 50182 He hoisted his flag at Wilhelmshaven on 8 May 1945, and subsequently died there. Source: The Times, Tuesday, Sep 25, 1945; pg. 6; Issue 50256 He died on 26 June 1945 Source: http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2470727 How to correct these facts, as the text is sourced on a book by Grose, that obviously presents inccorect facts. J.N. Houterman (talk) 16:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I had noticed this also, as Sept 1944 seemed horribly impossible. Found Facebook post by the Wash, DC Polish Embassy saying May 6 1945 as surrender of Wilhelmshaven.  So if he died in Wilhelmshaven in 1944, it was the Reich that was mourning him, as he had gone over to them!


 * There are other references to May 1945 for Wilhelmshaven surrender:
 * May 6 1945
 * May 1945
 * May 6 1945


 * There are other references to other death dates:
 * "In late 1944, when the Allied invasion of north-west Europe was going well, Muirhead-Gould was recalled to be appointed flag officer in charge, Western Germany, hoisting his flag at Wilhelmshaven in May 1945. He received the surrender of Heligoland but died at his headquarters from a heart attack on 26 June 1945 at the age of 56. He was later buried at sea from a warship off Portsmouth."NAVAL HISTORICAL COLLECTORS & RESEARCH ASSOCIATION
 * "Rear-Admiral Gerard Charles Muirhead-Gould, DSC, RN. former Naval Ofllcer-in-Charge in Sydney, died from a heart attack on Tuesday, and was buried at sea yesterday with naval honours, says a London message.-AAP."
 * "Recalled from Sydney by the Royal Navy to take a permanent post in the Commission of Control in occupied territories, Rear-Admiral Muirhead-Gould was flag officer in charge of Wilhelmshaven at the time of his death."
 * Newspaper article dated 30 June 1945, so 'Tuesday' would have been June 26 1945.


 * Author (or editor) got the death day correct, but the month and the assignment to duty at Wilhelmshaven are wildly wrong. What to do?  Shenme (talk) 04:09, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Not a popular man
I don't have the time to learn how to edit in Wikipedia, but this may be of interest ...

The subject of this article was Churchill's personal choice for 'C': I don't think he knew him, but he was not happy with the service the RN was then getting from SIS and it was the RN's turn to run the shop.

Anyway, Muirhead-Gould does not seem to have been popular. Most of the appointment process is at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/?_q=FO%201093/127, which contains this anonymous memo  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5HRcpumKwEjV0RIenlIS09BWlk/view?usp=sharing [which I shall leave in place until 1.1.17] and it says a lot about him. The comments at the head of the page signed AC are presumably by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Cadogan C.cohen (talk) 18:52, 14 November 2016 (UTC)