Talk:German destroyer Z3 Max Schultz/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: MisterBee1966 (talk · contribs) 12:22, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


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I will base my review on Hildebrand, Röhr and Steinmetz volume 6 pages 55 to 57. MisterBee1966 (talk) 12:22, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


 * First commander was KK Martin Baltzer, later Viceadmiral and chief of the Marine Personalamt (chief of the naval personnel office). Teddy Suhren would later have his discepancies with Baltzer
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 * 308 sailors lost their lives
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 * the new bow increased length from 119m to 119.3m
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 * the 6 x 2cm guns were augmented by further 2 x 2cm guns, at the time of her sinking she had 8 x 2cm guns
 * Gröner says the light AA armament wasn't increased to 8 x 20mm until mid-1942.
 * Now tell me, why and how would the Germans add two guns to a sunken ship in the middle of the North Sea? MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I rather expect that he's talking about the surviving ships in general.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:03, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Would that apply to the type 1934 and 1934A class destroyers? I mean not that many stayed around long enough to see 1942 MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There were more of the 16 that survived to '42 than you might think, so it may be more relevant than you think.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I recommend to use the full name of Kampfgeschwader 26, not the abbreviated KG 26 version
 * Done.
 * "Fleet review" links to "Fleet review (Commonwealth realms)"; Is this appropriate here?
 * Lacking a generic Fleet Review article, what else can I do? I can delete the link entirely if you'd prefer. Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:28, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just food for thought! Just because I find this awkward does not mean that it is inappropriate. MisterBee1966 (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)