Talk:Germanwings Flight 9525

Suicide
Doesn't seem really like a suicide to me. I mean, at least not primarily. There are plenty of ways to kill yourself that don't involve causing the brutal screaming death of hundreds of random other people. If he were just suicidal, one imagines he would have done that; I think this was more of a mass murder that happened to incidentally kill the guy. jp×g🗯️ 23:43, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Tend to agree. Suicide by pilot says, it's lead section: "If others are killed, it may be considered a type of murder–suicide." Does the official report deliberately exclude this description as inappropriate? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It is utterly absurd to describe the death of 150 individuals as 'suicide' due to the actions of one of them. AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:39, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * My view is that it was one person who died by suicide, and 149 people who were murdered. Dolphin ( t ) 11:30, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, use of the term "suicide" alone suggests that the pilot simply killed himself in the cockpit and allowed the aircraft to subsequently crash. Perhaps he did kill himself first. Not sure how that could be determined. He was still legally in control of the aircraft, so even that scenario would probably be viewed as mass murder. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:31, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * But this may be all so much WP:OR. The key sentence in the article (supported by a quotation) is this:
 * "The BEA final report into the crash was published on 13 March 2016. The report confirmed the findings made in the preliminary report and concluded that Lubitz had deliberately crashed the aircraft as a suicidal murder.
 * Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC)