Talk:Germany–Netherlands football rivalry

dated back to 1974?
i think that there is a significance of the second world war in their rivalry, just like in england. also for example dutch supporters wore orange plastic german ww2 helmets during the 2006 world cup.

Schade, Deutschland, alles ist vorbei
How about including this tagline / slogan / song in the text? Just Google it and you'll find out about the significance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.171.1.253 (talk) 01:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Marnix Krop über Deutschland und Holland —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.168.215.52 (talk) 23:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Why does the article say they are the strongest footballing nations. That's not true, even according to the cited source!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nvielbig (talk • contribs) 01:29, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Why isn't East Germany mentioned?
So why not adding East Germany to the competitive record of this page? I know FIFA sees the West Germany National Team as the predecessor of the national team of present-day Germany; but East Germany was also seen as just one of the two Germanies and thus a very big rival. I guess I've even heard Johan Boskamp saying on the talk show Extra Time last year that even though they didn't win the world cup in 1974 in/against West Germany, the win over East Germany felt very very sweet too. And still, East Germany isn't mentioned a single time on this whole page. J187B (talk) 07:12, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I just read the following on the Germany national football team wiki-page:
 * "two other separate national teams were also recognized by FIFA: the Saarland team (1950–1956) and the East German team representing the German Democratic Republic (1952–1990). Both have been absorbed along with their records by the current national team."


 * So I guess we might as well add East Germany's record to this page also. J187B (talk) 08:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Does this rivalry really exist?
Because, I'm sure from Holland's point of view this is all very real and true, but for something to be a rivalry both sides must hold a similar opinion about the rivalry and be of similar caliber. It terms of caliber, Holland doesn't come close to Germany's soccer record. Germany has won more WCs en ECs and taken part in more tournaments. And Germany doesn't see Holland as a rival, it sees Holland as a quaint little neighbour, much like Austria. This whole rivalry strikes me as an angry mouse getting ready to fight a lion, and the lion is barely aware of the mouse, yet for the mouse it's a heroic and epic battle. I've lived in both countries, and I'm just not sure it exists in Germany, or at least to the degree that it does in Holland. Like I said: Holland is hardly a rival to Germany. Brazil, or Italy those are German rivals. Vince (talk) 13:00, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree, though to say Oranje ain't a good team is not doing them justice (see the Honours they achieved). I always thought England was and is Germanys football rival.—Frieeedaaa (talk) 01:50, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

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