Talk:Gernikako Arbola

Pelayo and the Reconquista
Is this the tree where Pelayo began the Reconquista?


 * No. Probably Pelayo never got around Gernika. --Error (talk) 20:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

the "Marseillaise of the Basques"
I´m a Basque born in San Sebastian 29 years ago. I could sing the "Gernikako Arbola". It is quite an important song for us here. Even it he was neglected by the Basque goverment and did not become our official anthem as it should be. Here in Spain I´ve never heard of it as "the Marseillaise of the Basques". Could anybody clarify if that is somenthing commonly said in the French side of the Basque Country? If the comment has been added to the article by somebody from the Spanish Basque Country, I would just delete it. --alfanje 15:20, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * -¿Qué me dice de su "Gernikako Arbola"?
 * [...]Algunos han dicho, y acaso tratando de halagar a los vascos, que el "Gernikako Arbola" es la "Marsellesa" de los vascos, y es un error grande, porque entre el himno marcial, heroico, vengativo, de Rouget de L'Isle, y el canto solemne, fraternal y generoso de Iparraguirre, media un abismo;[...]
 * So there are people saying it, but it can be an misleading comparison. Remove it if you think it doesn't belong. -- Error 00:46, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It is alright with me. I just wanted to know if it was commonplace in the French Basque Country, as I never heard of it. I think the worst part of it is that the "Marseillaise" is an anthem for those that rejected the old order and wanted to create something revolutionary and new whereas "Gernikako Arbola" is about maintaining the old customs, laws and traditions. Anyway, both songs can be comparable in the respect that both are meaningful to a number of people, and are important for the French and the Basque. --alfanje 13:39, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Very interesting and original. Should have more info about the tree(s).--Pedro 18:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Lyrics
Since Iparraguirre is long dead, we could include and translate the anthem in the article. The problem is that I can not tell which of the many Google results is the original text with the original spelling. -- Error 01:44, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * I have added a referenced version with old Guipuscoan spelling. --Error 03:13, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

relation to LOTR?
this seems very similar to the White Tree of Gondor from from lord of the rings... does anyone know if this could have been Tolkien's inspiration?

-samapaphile

Not in WikiProject Plants
Gernikako Arbola is not a new species of tree, but is an oak. Gernikako Arbola means "Tree of Gernika", Gernika meaning the place were it is located - not a phylum or gender or so. Then I'm removing the tag. --Anna Lincoln 16:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:PLANTS needs to update its project goal. We strive to do more than just describe every single species. We include botanists, individual trees (i.e. General Sherman (tree)) like this one, and botany-related items like fruit and carpel. I'd say this is definitely within the scope of WP:PLANTS. --Rkitko (talk) 09:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

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Naming
I think all the trees and the main page title should be changed to "Tree of Gernika" and Tree of Gerediaga etc. In English, when you make a compound like Noun+tree/oak/etc, it sounds like it's the name of a species of tree (like copper beech or holm oak. It makes the whole name look very weird, like Gernika Tree is some kind of a subspecies of oak. Spanish has Árbol de Guernica, German has Der Baum von Gernika and French L'Arbre de Guernica ... not sure why this page ended up with this weird name. If no one disagrees, I'll wait for a few days and move the page. Akerbeltz (talk) 10:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Picture
It's a pity that we don't have a current picture of the tree. My pic is of the previous tree. loses the iconic temple. is skewed and low-resolution. focuses on the temple rather than the tree. --Error (talk) 21:29, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Splitting
Needless to say, both contents of this article are interrelated, but actually two topics. Following the pattern established in EU and ES WP I suggest this also be divided into two different articles. Iñaki LL (talk) 16:00, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Location of the tree
Where is the tree? The article does not describe its location i.e. what city is it in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.94.156.210 (talk) 15:17, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Done.-- Error (talk) 10:08, 19 July 2024 (UTC)