Talk:Gerry Ryan

Death
At this time, 14:50 on 30/04/2010, despite reports on Twitter and other sources, I have heard nor seen any official confirmation. Can anyone clear this up? I will continue to search and make calls for information. If details cannot be retrieved at this time, should we lock the page?

Davidlive (talk) 13:50, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed via CDPS on national radio (Newstalk, reputable national talk/new station) - gave official confirmation of Gerry Ryan's death. thejetset1 (talk) 13:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure most major news sources will have a lengthy story up soon. For the moment there's a fairly tiny source on breakingnews.ie  TheChrisD  Rants • Edits 13:55, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed: http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/ireland/gerry-ryan-found-dead-455930.html

Yeah, it's been confirmed since then. That's fine, and good to see the appropriate tags added to the page. Will updates as appropriate. RIP.

Davidlive (talk) 14:11, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Curiously he's still updating his blog at. How is that for dedication! Stormcloud (talk) 14:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Saw some vandalism on the page already. I'll keep an eye on it. --NotoriousTF (talk) 14:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Removed the word "potential" from this discussion. You're welcome.

-  >Sorry I do not know the proper template for this page, but I would like to make the following point(s):

The names of his parents be removed from the sidebar, as they are all ready mentioned in the 'Early Life' section/sub-section.

Also it could be noted that on the day on his death the words "Gerry Ryan" trended fifth on Twitter(meaning they were the fifth            most mentioned words on the site). They also were the most searched words on Google Images. Both statistics are worldwide.

Edit request from Nathaniel555, 30 April 2010
The "g" in Googled is not capitalised.

Nathaniel555 (talk) 21:00, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * google is correct nowadays. Algebraist 22:00, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

No, 'google' is only acceptable when in verb form. Otherwise, when talking about the company/site,'Google' is required.


 * I removed the "googled tapeworm porn" bit, per NOT Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 18:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * look at the logo, mushheads. it's "Google" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.8.100.127 (talk) 02:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Cause of death
I see in this article in the Irish Independent they mention: it is believed the 53-year-old star suffered a heart attack.. It might also be worth mentioning that he was found by his current partner, Melanie Verwoerd, the former South African ambassador to Ireland. Samcol1492 (talk) 04:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Added. -- can  dle &bull; wicke  05:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Spelling Error
There's a spelling error at 2.3, second paragraph. It says "rape vistim" instead of "rape victim". Scampfarmer (talk) 12:49, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * — Cargoking   talk  12:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Dealing with inappropate content
This may not a venue for discussion of Gerry Ryan, but surely it is appropriate to put on record here that the history of Ryan's coverage reflects very badly on Wikipedia. For a number of years, all sorts of wildly inaccurate and offensive comments about him and his work appeared regularly as part of his Wikipedia entry. Not only were these very poorly monitored by Wikipedia editors, but one editor in particular consistently displayed an appalling lack of balance in expressing his own vitriolic opinions about Ryan - in fact, he even encouraged readers to send in examples of anything that reflected badly upon Ryan. Over a period of a few years, I tried to challenge and correct some of the worst excesses, and, eventually, I think that a more effective form of monitoring came into effect. But damage had already been done - mainly to Wikipedia's credibility. And yet we still get comments like the one above from sad and bitter characters, such as Suil Tirim - who is trying to use the cover of Wikipedia to abuse Gerry Ryan, even in death. Adesterre (talk • contribs) 14:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


 * If we ask who are the editors who could have or should have monitored Gerry Ryan article, well the answer is potentially everyone on the planet. Remember wikipedia doesn't have an editorial committee.
 * In response to Adesterre, the more editors that contribute to wikipedia in good faith the better wikipedia will become.
 * If you see an article which has become the subject of vandalism or has contibutions which are inappropate for an encyclopedia, then please do edit them.


 * I've removed the this comment by user 174.16.16.95 for two reasons:
 * 1: the content was completely in approprate for a discussion page
 * 2: it was signed by user 174.16.16.95 using a false user name: Suil Tirm.
 * Samcol1492 (talk) 05:25, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

I take the points that you make, and think that they are quite reasonable and fair. But I must point out that, in my experience, Wikipedia articles that deal with somewhat controversial figures in the USA or the UK seldom seem to fall into the explicit and reckless abuse that characterised Gerry Ryan's entries for several years. Perhaps, that reflects more upon Ireland than Wikipedia. However, I would question the wisdom of allowing an editor - such as the one who signed himself as Rwxrwxrwx - to continue to contribute in any capacity to the greater Wikipedia project. Over a lengthy period of time, he displayed his own naked prejudice - not only in the many crude, hurtful and groundless comments that he made about Ryan, but in his active attempt to encourage others to do the same. That is surely a breach of the fundamental ethics of journalism - as well as a violation of Wikipedia's editorial principles. If no action can be taken against such individuals and such behaviour, then there are worrying long-term implications. Adesterre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adesterre (talk • contribs) 15:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * What on earth ... :-) ?! Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 17:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

All your previous entries on this page have now been deleted, Rwxrwxrwx, but, since you affect to be confused by my recent comments, let me remind you of some of what you wrote. On this page, you repeatedly described Gerry Ryan as "semi-literate" and a "racist". You provided no grounds for these acccusations - for wholly understandable reasons, I might add, since they were groundless. As I pointed out to you several times on this same page, Ryan held a number of University degrees. He was described by one of his University professors as a brilliant student, and was praised, following his death, by the celebrated novelist and Booker-prize winner, John Banville, for his wit and erudition. Ryan also played an active role, over many years, in raising funds for the developing world - a hospital for lepers in India is even named after him. What is more, his partner at the time of his death was a distinguished member of the African National Congress, and a long-term and courageous opponent of the vile apartheid regime. It is hardly likely that she would have become involved with the racist and semi-literate individual that you chose to conjure up in your Wikipedia entries. Finally, in case you have also forgotten, you solicited readers of Wikipedia to post examples of (what you termed) Ryan's "malaprops", and "loudmouthed" excesses. Ryan was not a saint, and, like all of us, I am sure he had his flaws, but he never merited the spiteful, vicious, and untruthful allegations that you regularly made about him. I don't know what motivated your deep-seated prejudice against Ryan - perhaps, you are a broadcaster whose own career has been less successful than his; perhaps, you are just an embittered loner - but your previous contributions to this page were not only shameful. They were an affront to the principles of fairness, balance and objectivity on which Wikipedia was founded. Adesterre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adesterre (talk • contribs) 16:20, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 89.100.43.22, 15 May 2010
hi im elliott

89.100.43.22 (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Hi Elliott. Please read our talk page guidelines. Celestra (talk) 17:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Change forages to forays
"Recent forages into the world of television include ..."
 * forage: To rampage through, gathering and destroying as one goes
 * foray: A brief excursion or attempt especially outside one's accustomed sphere
 * Some might argue the point (Jeoknowhat (talk) 18:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC))
 * This had been completely reworded by now, so is no longer necessary (Jeoknowhat (talk) 11:12, 11 June 2010 (UTC))

"He was also a criminal fool, and an enemy of all that's decent and honourable and true in society"
Is that really an appropriate end to a biographical article on a deceased person? Hilarious 78.150.205.105 (talk) 18:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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