Talk:Gershon Agron

Present Tense 6, 3
A few weeks ago I emailed the YIVO archive regarding access to the suggested source of Present Tense vol 6 no. 3, and they very helpfully sent back a pdf file of photographs of the respective pages! I will using this source to expand on particularly the Jerusalem Post section. Kingsif (talk) 00:03, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Jabotinsky-related information
Agron and Ze'ev Jabotinsky would have met in the Jewish Legion. In 1919, Agron praised an article written by Jabotinsky. In 1920, Agron was living in the Jabotinsky house in which all male occupants were arrested for collecting weapons seemingly to fight the British mandatory officials on behalf of Zionism, as part of the aftermath of the 1920 Nebi Musa riots; Agron would have likely been arrested, as all occupants were, but either was not or was one of the five left arbitrarily at the house and picked up later, as he corresponded from outside with the nineteen during their detention. In December 1921, Jabotinsky wrote to Agron in New York, asking him to help a Zionist writer to publish in the United States. However, by 1935, the two had fallen out over matters of political parties; Jabotinsky wrote to a different publisher to suggest "it may be desirable to attack Agronsky" professionally.
 * Kingsif (talk) 17:25, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I incorporated some of this into the article. No source for being "friends", per se. Kingsif (talk) 15:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Struma
It says he "was there to watch the MV Struma, carrying Jewish refugees from Europe, sink". Impossible. As far as is known, only people on the ship and (possibly) the Russian submarine that fired the torpedo watched it sink. I could be that he was in Turkey at the time of the sinking, but the rest is probably a mistranslation or misreport. What does the source actually say? Zerotalk 01:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Source used in article (English; written by someone who knew him, so if there is misreporting it is presumably from Agron himself). Text in source: As a war correspondent, Agron reported on the 1941-1943 North African campaign. His visit to Turkey in 1942 coincided with the sinking of the MV Struma, and he personally witnessed the tragedy of the dying Jewish refugees facing British and Turkish callousness. - it is possible that "the tragedy" is being used to mean that he saw the refugees trying to disembark in Turkey and be denied, or maybe that he saw the response to the sinking in Turkey (though that one seems less likely as it mentions the refugees explicitly). Otherwise, WP:V and tweaked the sentence in article. Kingsif (talk) 02:07, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Right, there was a long saga with the Struma in port unable to move under its own steam and only a handful of refugees being allowed off. (The full story is more complicated, as always.) Then Turkey towed it back into the Black Sea and set it adrift. Soon it was sunk by a Russian submarine with only one survivor. Zerotalk 03:02, 31 March 2022 (UTC)