Talk:Ghatanothoa

Ghatanothoa's heritage
Carter's theories are debateable since the conjectures were made after Heald and Lovecraft's deaths. It was proposed by Carter as a way to unite the Mythos. However, like many gods of true myth cycles, Ghatanothoa's heritage is still a mystery. User:141.151.1.100


 * POV? Cite a reference for this view before restoring to article. Gate2Valusia 02:42, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Original research/unverified claims
The Notes section of this article contains information that has not been substantiated by an authoritative third-party, and is thus not encyclopedic. This information probably belongs under the Discussion page, as it appears to be POV; however, it may be of some merit pending citation of a credible source. G a t e 2 Valusia Oh? ..( contribs ) 11:58, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Possible original research removed from article:"One may note that Ghatanothoa was brought from Yuggoth by the Mi-Go, which is strange since the Mi-Go are not known as worshippers of this particular god. It is therefore sometimes inferred that at the time Ghatanothoa or his servitors and the Fungi from Yuggoth were allies. For what benefit to the pragmatic Mi-Go it is unknown, although use of the Lord of Volcanoes as a weapon is plausible (point in reference binding Nyarlathotep's deadly Haunter of the Dark avatar to the Shining Trapezehedron)."-,-~ R 'lyeh R isin g ~-,- 09:55, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Original research redux
I removed the following from the Notes section of the article as likely original research: This theory [about Ghatanothoa as Cthulhu's son] is a subject of debate among fans of Lovecraftian fiction, because neither Heald or Lovecraft confirmed this. Also, Ghatanothoa's form and behaviour are much more like that of a particularly powerful and monstrous Lloigor than the sea creature-like qualities of other spawn of Cthulhu. What evidence is there of such a debate. Also, Lovecraft (who ghostwrote "Out of the Aeons" from a plot germ supplied by Heald (see note below) died long before Lin Carter and Colin Wilson offered their own takes on Ghatanothoa; he was certainly in no position to weigh in on the debate!

-,-~ R 'lyeh R isin g ~-,- 04:32, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: S. T. Joshi writes: "'Out of the Aeons'... can actually take place next to Lovecraft's own tales. There can be no question of Lovecraft's authorship from start to finish, and Lovecraft is explicit on the point: 'I should say I did have a hand in it. . . . I wrote the damned thing!'... One is even hard put to ascertain what sort of synopsis Mrs Heald could have provided for the tale: surely she could not have contributed even the idea of the sub-narrative about Mu, and probably she had a vague conception about a mummy coming to life in a museum." ("Lovecraft's Revisions: How Much of Them Did He Write?", Selected Papers on Lovecraft, pp. 53.)

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Mythological inspiration for Ghatanothoa
Would it be reasonable to mention in the article that Lovecraft may have drawn inspiration from the Guayota deity of Guanche mythology? Beyond the similar name, Guayota was also a malignant deity imprisoned in Mount Teide, a volcano in Tenerife.

We also know that a significant amount of Lovecraft's Cthulhu-mythos is based around sunken and volcanic islands, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that he has studied Guanche mythology as reference.