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Giant virus and NCLDV
Are there any known Giant viruses that are not NCLDVs? And which NCLDVs are not Giant viruses? --Ernsts (talk) 20:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Girus nomenclature
Firstly, this is amazing material :) Secondly, I like the name 'girus' which still redirects here, but where does the coinage originate?  Only one 2009 article in the sources uses the term in its title, though it is quite popular on social media. – SJ +  03:13, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Good point, I added a reference to the 2006 paper that introduced the term. Opabinia regalis (talk) 05:41, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Megaklothovirus
I wonder why there's no mention of Megaklothovirus here. Ypna (talk) 05:13, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Only 2 google scholar hits, plus this paper: https://hal.laas.fr/I2M-2014-/hal-02010229 . Discovery/proposal (2019) is in there, for the interested.  Maybe it's too new.  I'm confused trying to generate reference for this paper, though published in Virology: Current Research, it doesn't seem to have a DOI and I can't find it on the publishers website.
 * We do have mention of its content at Chaetognatha, without citation. CyreJ (talk) 11:51, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Megaviricetes with Giant virus
Synonymous save for future cases (WP:CRYSTAL). All the biological commonalities presented in GV article are due to a common descent described by the M taxon. Also, both currently use the same taxobox. Artoria2e5 🌉 16:21, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

There is a misunderstanding. Megaviricetes is a taxonomic group (class) of viruses. Giant virus is not a taxonomic group, and should not have a taxobox. "Giant viruses" refers to viruses that share certain properties; they also happened to be taxonomically related. A taxon is not synonymous with a biological entity. Curt99 01:30, 31 July 2022 (UTC)


 * i would say merge it with (see new section) Nucleocytoviricota,
 * "Megaviricetes is a taxonomic group (class) of viruses." - Nucleocytoviricota is a phylum of viruses
 * "Giant virus is not a taxonomic group,, and should not have a taxobox." - therefore could be part of the Nucleocytoviricota page
 * " "Giant viruses" refers to viruses that share certain properties; they also happened to be taxonomically related." - They are all part of the same phylum
 * "A taxon is not synonymous with a biological entity." - at this point it is
 * All known giant viruses belong to the phylum Nucleocytoviricota.
 * >>> Webclouddat (talk) 04:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

"Hair Cover"?
I think this article should explain what the "hair cover" column in the first table means w/r/t viruses and why its notable/significant. TotesNeato (talk) 06:58, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

merge
merge with Nucleocytoviricota, they are the same thing,

"All known giant viruses belong to the phylum Nucleocytoviricota."

>>> Webclouddat (talk) 04:33, 19 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Respectively, a taxon is not the same thing as an "organism", even though they are often confounded on Wikipedia and in the literature. One can write about the taxonomy of Giant Viruses, but Giant Viruses are not a taxonomic group. Much as cabbage, bears and fish are organisms that have a taxonomic assignment. It may seem pedantic, but it actually is an important distinction. As well, taxonomy changes, such as the relatively newly created Nucleocytoviricota and Megaviricetes; whereas, a Giant Virus, will always be a Giant Virus, and a bear will still be a bear, even if it is decided that the family Ursidae is no longer valid. I hope these words help to clarify that a taxon and a group of biological entities are not the same thing. Curt99  03:05, 17 February 2024 (UTC)