Talk:Gilda Radner/Archive 1

Original Article Accuracy
The original article on Gilda Radner wasn't very accurate. Two major things that weren't were the fact that Gilda Radner wrote her book, "It's Always Something", after she found out that her cancer really hadn't subsided, and she didn't die in her sleep. Well, sort of. See, she died while she was going to have another operation to help her cancer, and she just didn't wake up from it. Her husband was with her when they found that she wouldn't wake up, but it wasn't like she died while in her home sleeping.
 * Well, according to her husband in his own writings, she "died in her sleep," which is a much more dignified explaination than "she died on the operating table." If that's the way her husband wanted the facts to be expressed, then that should be honored. -EB-
 * Extremely dubious proposition, indeed, indefensible. What happened?  Where did she die?  This is an encyclopedia, not a memorial album.  Ortolan88

Removed from article:
 * Gilda Radner is remembered as a legendary performer with a kind heart who battled extreme circumstances with a smile and open arms for everyone around her.

It is clear from the article that she was courageous, funny, and kind, so this POV paragraph isn't needed. Ortolan88 04:04 Nov 3, 2002 (UTC)

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(In accordance to the response made by Ortolan88) Well, fine, but the original article made it seem like she was at home or something. It would have been fine to say, "She went in for an operation, and during the operation she died in her sleep"(in fact, that would have been the perfect thing to say) the original article leave the operation part out, and so therefore it makes it seem like, "oh, one day she was at home and was sleeping and died, just out of the blue," ..and her husband expresses in his original article to the press that she had gone in for an operation and died in her sleep, so I think he would have wanted that part there, too.

Any true fan would have wanted that in there, AND since there is a place to submit any corrections, I thought it was the good thing to do. I don't know many things about this site, but if there is a place for people to correct information, I think I should have my rights to do so. Also, encyclopedia's are supposed to enclose information about the person that is important, and her ending is an important thing for people to know, so it should be accurate. Plus to be honest, if I had died during an operation, I wouldn't want people to remember it as me just randomly dying in my sleep oneday. Would you want it that way?(December 14, 2002 -- 1:15 PM - EST. Prettypatchie@aol.com


 * The whole Wikipedia is based on correcting misinformation and keeping a neutral point of view. You have come to the right place and you are doing the right thing by raising these questions.  However, dying anesthetized on an operating table is not dying in your sleep.  Did she die during an operation?  Did she die in a hospital?  Did she die while sleeping normally in a hospital preparing for an operation?  That is what we need to know to make an encyclopedia article.  What a"true fan would have wanted" is irrelevant.  What happened is relevant.  Where and how did Gilda Radner die?Ortolan88 23:22 Dec 16, 2002 (UTC)

Does anyone perhaps know if Gilda had a middle name?
 * Yes - page updated (Google: "gilda susan" radner for several references) Dl2000 03:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

She didn't die while on the operating table - she wasn't even going in for an operation. She was getting a CAT scan and they put her under for it and she flipped out but they did it anyway and she never woke up.

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BetacommandBot 22:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The picture currently appearing on the Gilda Radner page is not Gilda Radner. It is Jami Gertz playing Gilda Radner.

Clean-up particulars
After I tagged this article for clean-up, I was requested to provide some particulars. Here are some parts of the article that need to be re-written to fit Wikipedia style/tone or that are trivia:


 * Radner joined Saltman and his girlfriend on a trip to Paris in the summer of 1966. Saltman wrote that he was so affectionate with his girlfriend that they left Radner to fend for herself during much of their sightseeing.


 * She once told a reporter that she had thrown up in every toilet in Rockefeller Center.[4] She had a relationship with SNL castmate Bill Murray that ended badly, although few details were made public at the time.


 * She described their first meeting as "love at first sight."[3]


 * Anxious with fear that she would never wake up, she was given a sedative and passed into a coma.

The following quotation might be used, but needs to be considerably shorter.


 * Gene Wilder had this to say about her death:
 * She went in for the scan – but the people there could not keep her on the gurney. She was raving like a crazed woman – she knew they would give her morphine and was afraid she’d never regain consciousness. She kept getting off the cart as they were wheeling her out. Finally three people were holding her gently and saying, "Come on Gilda. We’re just going to go down and come back up." She kept saying, "Get me out, get me out!" She’d look at me and beg me, "Help me out of here. I’ve got to get out of here." And I’d tell her, "You’re okay honey. I know. I know." They sedated her, and when she came back, she remained unconscious for three days. I stayed at her side late into the night, sometimes sleeping over. Finally a doctor told me to go home and get some sleep. At 4 am on Saturday, I heard a pounding on my door. It was an old friend, a surgeon, who told me, "Come on. It’s time to go." When I got there, a night nurse, whom I still want to thank, had washed Gilda and taken out all the tubes. She put a pretty yellow barrette in her hair. She looked like an angel. So peaceful. She was still alive, and as she lay there, I kissed her. But then her breathing became irregular, and there were long gaps and little gasps. Two hours after I arrived, Gilda was gone. While she was conscious, I never said goodbye.

Jeremy Butler 13:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Do we have a picture available of her as "Baba Wawa" on "Saturday Night Live"?
Do we have a picture available of her as "Baba Wawa" on "Saturday Night Live"? That was one of her most popular recurring characters on the show, and it would help readers being introduced to Radner for the first time understand how funny and talented she was. JGKlein (talk) 15:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No free use one. There was an image placed in the infobox at one point that said it was Radner, but it was Jamie Gertz when she played Radner in the TV movie. I have an SNL book myself that has a picture of Radner, but it is obviously copyrighted. Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)