Talk:Gingivitis

Government article
This article appears to have been taken directly from http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001056.htm, with the word order and diction just changed around ever-so-slightly. Kinda like plagiarism.
 * U.S. government sources are public domain. cprompt 23:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Even so, public domain sources should be cited. Should the gov't article go in "references" (or failing that, to "external links"?)64.252.2.252 20:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Saliva
Is there a connection between viscous saliva and gum disease? -Unknown

Autoimmuine Gingivitis
Someone should add autoimmune gingivitis to this article. This type of gingivitis exists in cats. Wkr, M.
 * I haven't heard of it, but that is not surprising since I am not a vet! :-P We need someone with that knowledge to write an article on it. Coincidentally, there are many periodontal manifestations of systemic disease in humans, though I am not so certain that is similar to what you are referring to in cats. - Dozenist talk  18:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Dear M., what you are talking about is called the "Feline Gingivitis/Stomatitis/Pharyngitis Complex". Its precise etiology seems to be unknown. I wrote a German article about it in de.wikipedia.org. You can find it here. Maybe somebody feels like translating/modifying it to/for English? Cheers! -- 80.123.36.165 16:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Injury inflammation
I was told I had gingivitis by my doctor and much of what she told me is reflected in this article. I have my own theories about this, however, because my gums only became enflamed AFTER flossing them. I had not flossed for several weeks beforehand and doing it the night before made them sore and red, or at least, made me notice it due to the pain.

Could it be possible that part of the inflammation is due to aggravation of the gums through aggressive brushing and flossing (not experienced with electric toothbrushes due to their evenness) and that the lack of inflammation of the gums in those who regularly floss may be due to a faster healing response or toughening/thickening of the gums as to not bleed in response to identical cutting force? I feel there might be more than one cause to that inflammation, not just that gums become enflamed with bacteria and thus bleed easier.

Our body tissue becomes stronger to adapt to stress, so why not the mouth? If muscles, tendons, ligaments, and bone, get stronger with weightlifting, why not the gums, bones of the teeth and periodontal ligaments? Tyciol 20:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The inflammation is from the plaque and calculus (which are filled mostly with bacteria) residing in the pocket between your tooth and gums, and the consequent immune response from your body to ward off the bacteria. When you floss, you break up the focus of bacteria.  Now, if you rarely floss, you are going to bleed when you floss because the gums are already inflamed.  In worse infections, the gums will bleed by merely brushing your teeth.  In even worse, they bleed spontaneously. Touching your gums with floss in health will not result in their bleeding. I hope that clears things up a bit. - Dozenist  talk  21:19, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Diabetes, causes

 * "Periodotitis has also been linked to diabetes"
 * "uncontrolled diabetes mellitus increases the risk of gingivitis, due to hormonal changes"

The first statement, first off, may not belong under 'causes' as I feel the wording implies, since it follows that of bacterial infections affecting health, that gingivitis can CAUSE diabetes. If this idea persists based upon associations, the second statement implies that diabetes is a causing factor. While it's possible that they could cause a viscious circle, both aggravating the accompanying condition, I think it more likely that the lower health quality would make inflammation more likely, as I can't see how oral bacterial infections could negatively affect pancreas funciton (type 1) or cause insulin resistance in the body's cells (type 2). I suppose it might, but they can tend to cause a variety of conditions so I'm not sure if experiments have been done to isolate that process. Tyciol 20:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Periodontitis does not cause diabetes. I do not think most anyone is saying that. Periodontitis and diabetes are related because both conditions are linked by an impairment in the function of neutrophils (in particular, their chemotaxis, phagocytosis, and adherence to cell walls).  The neutrophil dysfunction is believed to be an important factor in the progression of periodontitis.  There has been a movement by some to recognize periodontitis as the 6th complication from diabetes. Even in controlled diabetics, periodontal therapy to correct periodontitis may affect the glucose level, which is why these patients are told to monitor their blood glucose levels closely during treatment and why consultation to the physician treating the diabetes is frequently done. I cannot take much time to respond, but a quick search found me this page on the American Association of Periodontology. - Dozenist  talk  21:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Link to pancreatic cancer?
I recall a recent study found a strong link between gingivitis and pancreatic cancer. Should there be some mention in the main article? The article on pancreatic cancer makes mention of this correlation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.75.170.119 (talk) 04:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

It is very painful to live with gingivitis. Many people can not sleep.

See the above discussion on diabetes and gingivitis. I think it highly unlikely that there is a causative link between gingivitis and pancreatic cancer. On the other hand, diabetes is a significant and known risk factor for pancreatic cancer, unsurprisingly (insulin). It would logically follow that many people who are diabetic and eventually develop pancreatic cancer will also have gingivitis. The gingivitis is a symptom of blood sugar problems-- NOT a 'cause' of the pancreatic cancer, itself a result of the blood sugar/insulin dysfunction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.13.130.104 (talk) 14:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Weakened hearts
One point that should be brought up in the article is that gingivitis, like tooth decay and other tooth and mouth diseases, especially on the gums, can increase risks for heart problems. JustN5:12 23:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

On the alernative medicine reference
I haven't read the article itself, but there's a "disclaimer" on the front page of the site where it's published which I think that invokes further attention to the article itself. --Extremophile 19:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

can gingivitis be passed on orally?
like, through kissing and stuff121.216.119.24 11:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

"Oil Pulling"
I deleted a reference to an alternative medicine therapy called "oil pulling." The WP article on oil pulling deems it on the fringes of even alternative medicine. Moreover, the source article was not reliable (based on a study of 10 people for 45 days) and even notes "There has been no mention of studies on “Oil pulling” in the dental literature."Jedgeco 20:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Calculus
on the fifth paragraph..

When the teeth are not cleaned properly by regular brushing and flossing, bacterial plaque accumulates, and becomes mineralized by calcium and other minerals in the saliva transforming it into a hard material called calculus (tartar) which harbors bacteria and irritates the gingiva (gums)

This is probably supposed to be plaque or something, but it was still calculus for awhile back in history. Can someone examine this? Kronermark (talk) 03:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Prevention
Unless the term is used within the dental field, "dihydrogen monoxide" in the Prevention section is confusing and should be replaced with "water" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.163.171.193 (talk) 04:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

There's plagiarism involved here somehow
Either by Wikipedia or by another source which I have suspiciously located: http://medical-dictionary-medical.com/index.php?a=term&d=Medical+dictionary&t=Gingivitis. Notice how it is apparently a word for word copy of the Causes section. The site doesn't attribute it to Wikipedia, and the rest of the article is just the section right below causes here, so either that site lifted it from us or someone here lifted it from them. Either way, this seems like trouble. Homestarmy (talk) 02:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Upon further review, both this article and the "medical dictionary" entry appear to have some text copied word for word from MedlinePlus http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001056.htm . Interestingly, despite having a shorter causes section it seems to be written in a much tighter and more encyclopedic style. Just thought it might be relevant. Homestarmy (talk) 02:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

This article is not up to Wikis standards. The grammar has not been checked ("fluoridated hydrogen peroxide-based mouth rinse can remove teeth..."; there are confusing contradictions and it reads like a paper forced to be written under pressure. Receding gums should be mentioned and the relationship to gingivitis. All the risk factors blamed the sufferer, which I've striven to remedy. NEEDS WORK BY PROFESSIONAL. Lisa inCA (talk) 19:28, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but the biggest problem is lack of MEDRS sourcing, and you actually added to that problem in this diff. Please don't add more unsourced content.  I'll try to rework this over the weekend. Jytdog (talk) 19:53, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Wow -- what a mess!
This page is so bad -- and considering that it got over 40,000 in the last month alone leads me to want to tidy it up really quick. I'll see to it that this is made into something short, sweet, coherent and clear in the coming weeks.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 05:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Needs to be rewritten from scratch. Even the grammar is poor. Lisa inCA (talk) 19:29, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Gingervitis- gum disease or angry group of red heads?
Have you ever considered that prehaps Gingervitis is not only a nasty form of gum disease but also angry involuntry society of red heads. Think about the ginger headed friends that you have. They either imbrase their gingerness or "gingervitis" or they go off on this nasty rampage where they think the entire world is against them.

Recent scientific studies have also shown the beneficial effects of mouthwashes with essential oils.[13]
I followed the link to see if more information is available, I couldn't find any.

The problem is that there are a very large number of essential oils and they don't have a lot in common except that they are fat soluble and have the "essence" of the substance they came from.

Clove oil has long been used topically to relieve tooth pain, is this the specific EO? Or is there another?

Either the specific EO should be mentioned, or the reference delected. 75.15.215.107 (talk) 18:42, 21 January 2012 (UTC) 21 Jan 2012

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bleach?
Knowledgeable people on this Gingivitis article should consider copying into this article the from the Bleach article:

'Treatment of gingivitis [footnote 35, citing seemingly reliable source] [:] Diluted sodium hypochlorite at a rate of 2000–1 (0.05% concentration) may represent an efficacious, safe and affordable antimicrobial agent in the prevention and treatment of periodontal disease.'

Bo99 (talk) 15:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

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