Talk:Girardoni air rifle

Importance section is blatantly incorrect
Every single part of this section is made up of unresearched assumptions. The Kalthoff repeater was around more than a century before the Girandoni rifle appeared, had a tubular magazine, and was issued to a military force. The final sentence appears nothing more than a jab at the Henry rifle merely acting to overstate the importance of this air rifle; complexity does not equal innovation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.176.239.249 (talk) 00:24, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Missing/Broken Links
Of the four source sites at the bottom, 3 of them are broken links. Anyone have any better sources? 149.125.65.18 (talk) 16:17, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Complicated?
"Finally, it was very different from any other weapon of the time and any soldier using it needed to be highly trained."

http://www.network54.com/Forum/451309/thread/1296928404/This+is+just+to+cool+not+to+spread+around

From the looks of it, the weapon may be different from most guns of the time but seems not very difficult to operate, certainly not more difficult than a black powder musket, let alone any black powder rifle prior to the arrival of the Minnie ball.--Cancun771 (talk) 11:57, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Addition, How does it work?
"...100 lead balls, 1 in the chamber, 21 in the magazine built into the rifle and the remaining 80 in four tin tubes."

1 + 21 + 80 = 102 not 100.

2610:130:101:1000:225:FF:FE4D:3E4B (talk) 16:45, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

United States use
Was this rifle really used by the United States? Yes! I understand it was taken on the Lewis and Clark Expedition True! but I don't think it was ever used on any other occasion. Also true. Please, correct me if I'm wrong. M11rtinb (talk) 07:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

a question
it had a rifle barrel or a smoothbore barrel? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.75.80.136 (talk) 15:20, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Is it Girandoni or Girardoni??
The article uses them interchangeably. That can't be right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.44.35.44 (talk) 01:17, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * This man's name was Bartolomeo GIRARDONI and therefore the article needs to be migrated. He was also not Tyrolian, since he was born in Cortina d’Ampezzo which never was located in Tyrol. The people who released their "wisdom" here are rather clueless.--Suessmayr (talk) 20:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

May not be the first Repeater, and Depends on Wording.
2600:1700:BCE0:A230:1071:31B0:4D91:F1D3 (talk) 18:16, 15 January 2018 (UTC) I happen to know there are repeating pistols going back to the 1600s. But the last writer may be correct, it could be the first repeating rifle to see military use. But it may not be the first repeating rifle. Most understand repeating weapons back to the time when repeating rifle became a popular term and more widespread. But rarer and older repeating weapons go to post-medieval at least. And there may be an older repeating rifle out there. Nevertheless, the last editor was close to spot-on due to the fact it remains a very, very early repeating rifle.
 * Lorenzoni and Kalthoff systems come to mind, and I don't think Lorenzoni system firearms were that rare either. They were made from the 17th century all the way to the early 19th century in lots of European countries. JJohannes (talk) 22:37, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Inconsistencies
Most notably the sentence of the introductory paragraph that alludes to the German term for this gun being "Windbüchse" is inconsistent with other articles & wrong on it's own terms. "Windbüchse" is the type of weapon from which this is one example from that category, as also described in the German version of wiki wherein "Windbüchse" has its own separate article from the one about the "Girardoni-Windbüchse", talking about the concept being more than a century older with other rifles & places of manufacturing. 2A02:1210:1CA7:D700:79D3:DD31:D175:3C6C (talk) 17:35, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

The Article Itself
The entire article repeats word for word. 73.240.165.125 (talk) 21:01, 29 October 2023 (UTC)