Talk:Girl Online

Criticism section removed
I get worried whenever the person who creates an article starts taking steps to defend NOT the content of the article, but the person/ place/ etc. that the article is about. If an independent uninvolved editor had removed the "criticism" section claiming whatever reasons, fine, but for this to be done by Nikthestunned, it smacks of bias towards the subject. What is "UNDUE and not clear what the situation is" about it? It is all over the internet in all sorts of very reliable sources, even Penguin has issued a statement. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 19:51, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * At the time of reverting, the only source saying anything other than that she "did not write the book on her own" was the Telegraph article which sourced a Sunday Times article for it's information. That same article was the source for a Daily Mail article stating that the Publisher "did not confirm that the sales success was ghostwritten" - so I removed it. If you find more sources which back either side then I've no problem with that section being expanded properly. The reason I moved it from "Criticism" to "Release" was per MOS:NOVELS.  Nik the  stunned  21:12, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Can clearly be expanded given sources now available I see but still don't know where in the article it should go.  Nik the  stunned  21:24, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Nikthestunned. I'd say it would go below release - either as 4 or 3.2. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 10:06, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Novel articles don't tend to have a "criticism" / "controversy" section though - should it be in it's own section, or part of release? (In this case it's criticism of the author not the novel which complicates matters further). Looking at some FAs, The Hunger Games has a section in "reception" but that seems quite specific to that case. Maybe it should be under a header like "authorship" or something, in "Background"? Will start looking at sources anyway I guess.  Nik the  stunned  10:26, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hope this helps, Nikthestunned:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magician_(Maugham_novel)#Allegations_of_plagiarism
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Haley#Plagiarism_dispute_and_other_criticism
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fixer_(novel)
 * Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 13:31, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Afraid not, as none of those articles have undergone any form of peer review etc, which is where I'd tend to look for such things. Guess I'll add something anyways, cheers.  Nik the  stunned  13:56, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I've given it a go. I think my main problem here is with the misleading headlines... Telegraph: "NOVEL WAS GHOSTWRITTEN" in headline, "HAD HELP WITH NOVEL" in body. Which do I use? Clickbait makes a wiki editors job no easier!  Nik the  stunned  14:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

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