Talk:Glee

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

Not moved Vegaswikian (talk) 00:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Glee → Glee (disambiguation) — - It appears that most incoming links to this page are meant to be to Glee (TV series), so I propose turning this location into a redirect to the series. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I just redirected all the incoming links that should have gone to the TV show, but I think we can expect more going forward. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Glee (TV series) has about 170 incoming links. That is more links than the other entries on the dab page that I checked, but not a lot. --Una Smith (talk) 16:35, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The TV series is brand new, so these are brand new links. Incoming links intending the TV series will taper off soon enough, as it becomes no longer new.  The question is:  is the TV series the primary topic of Glee? --Una Smith (talk) 22:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Arguably not -- Glee (music) would probably be closer to primary here. However, I'd expect that very few incoming links of Glee, as a bare term would be referring to that, whereas most people referring to the series would expect "Glee" to be at the other end of the link.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 00:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose: until reading this talk page, I had never heard of this television programme (I live in the UK). I guess that may be true for English-speaking readers from a number of countries around the world. I'm slightly surprised at the suggestion that a page of international relevance should be converted to a redirect to something of what seems to me to be localised interest, however intense that interest may be at the current time. -- Hebrides (talk) 07:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it looks like a case of WP:RECENTISM. --Una Smith (talk) 16:35, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that I'm not asking for Glee (TV series) to be moved here -- I just want a redirect here that points to the series until such time as consensus determines that there's a better target for it.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose WP:RECENTISM and strong US bias. Glee music the derived usage of glee music clubs would be more likely, and then the TV show is a derived usage of the glee music club... 65.94.252.195 (talk) 04:27, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose — Arguably no primary topic, and the proposal to make the ambiguous base name a redirect with the intention of changing it to one or another topic ad hoc rather than repair incoming links, is contrary to Wikipedia established practice of using dab pages to catch and repair once and for all incoming links to ambiguous base names (Disambiguation pages with links). --Una Smith (talk) 14:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note I did repair the incoming links -- I'm just expecting more in the future, the majority of which will likely be for the TV show. It's these links that I'm proposing to handle with the redirect. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:06, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I do understand that. And I see SarekOfVulcan fixed about 35 incoming links. --Una Smith (talk) 15:13, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

As I was edit conflicted while closing the request and Vegaswikian didn't clarify his interpretation, I'll paste my intended closing statement here: "no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. It is generally deprecated to redirect plain titles to titles with parentheticals; there is either a consensus to move the page with a parenthetical to the plain title, or the disambiguation page is migrated there. Navigational aids are generally given precedence over link maintenance." Dekimasu よ! 00:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

FYI
Talk:Glee_%28TV_series%29. &#151; Mike 03:44, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Glee (TV series) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 00:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Reorganized entries
C’mon: The pre-literacy and other natural-paradigm words are there bcz of our lack of frequent need to deal with the spoils of literacy: The Deviant Casings
 * may as well be on the page (if not there, where?)
 * and at the end (to improve access to the real words.

But the relatively few users who are looking for an acronym, and know that already, deserve our effort to make it easy to skip the traditional words, and jump directly to initialisms, acronyms, and trademark atrocities. Capice? --JerzyA (talk) 01:42, 9 January 2020 (UTC)