Talk:Glenn Tipton

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There's two videos on JP's website, where Tipton explains he didnt start learning the guitar until he was 21! Anyone knows more and want to write it to the article? --Grinder0-0 10:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Just added a sentense about that, as well as his piano skill. --Kroum 17:17, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Keyboards?
Does anyone know if he stopped playing keyboards after the '70s or something? The only times he ever appeared playing keyboards were on the first few Judas Priest albums in the '70s, then after Stained Class it was pretty much over. You never hear him playing them after that. I know they became a lot more rare in Priest's music during the '80s and '90s, but I'm suspicious that he may have quite, because even when there were keyboards featured in their music, they got a session player to play them (like how Don Airey plays them on "A Touch of Evil" and on one of the songs on Demolition). Even on Turbo, when their music became all synthy, they chose to use synth guitars instead of actually synthesizers. Anyone have any information on the subject?

--Rock Soldier 20:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Age?
I edited the DOB from 1941 to 1947, which I found more sources supporting. I'm not 100% sure though - although it seems unlikely that Tipton is that much older than the rest of the band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.72.241 (talk) 14:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Playing Style
I am a professional guitarist of almost 20 years. On top of analysing Glenn's style of play, I also have a number of interviews, articles and books on the matter. All of the facts I presented withing my revisions are fact and can be confirmed in the 1993 book Judas Priest Hell Bent For Lead Licks (Hal Leonard Publishing). This book contains analysis of his playing along with interviews with the man himself - to which I referenced.

Having said that, someone at IP address 62.56.97.189 keeps undoing my changes and reverting the text BACK to grossly inaccurate text (which is why I revised it in the first place). Can someone advise how to report this user or prevent the page from being amended? I have physical evidence that is irrefutable that his contributions are completely fallacious.

NemesisRogue (talk) 14:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC))


 * Read WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, WP:CITE, WP:RS and WP:AWW. Until you read and understand those... your edits will be reverted every time and you will be blocked from editing for ignoring Wikipedia poicy. Have a nice day. The Real Libs-speak politely 18:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

There's nothing called as hammer off technique, so the previous word 'hammer ons and off' makes no sense. I have changed it to Hammer ons and 'Pull off.'    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.237.141.114 (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Glenn tipton often uses Neo-classical scales in his playing. (I know this sounds strange for people) but he does uses harmonic minor scales in his solos specially after Painkiller record and his Solo albums. Even on the latest record Nostradamus most of his solos are played in Harmonic minor / Neo classical scales. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.146.125.183 (talk) 12:50, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

let's see now shall we?

1) WPNOR - No original research. All my facts are backed up by PUBLISHED material and I have even mentioned the sources! The current wiki page that YOU keep reinstating is one that is FACTUALLY INACCURATE and thus guilty of NOR.

2) WPCITE - citing sources. As mentioned above, ALL sources were detailed in my edit. Reinstating the original content as you have is to be guilty of failing to adhere because the facts presented are WHOLLY INACCURATE!

3) WPNPOV - neurtral point of view. Everything in my edit is neutral.

4) AWW - avoid weasel words. Again, none present. If you think otherwise, try pointing them out and be HELPFUL instead of reinstating completely FALSE information about Glenn Tipton! Do you understand?

You talk about violating wiki policy when it's clear that it is my intention, with these edits and discussion notes to stick to wiki policy!

And realise that someone, WITH knowledge, and WITH 3rd party material to verify what is being said, is TRYING to help and (not hinder) and that removing my edits to leave up FALSE and UNSUBSTANTIATED claims is to be doing a disservice to everyone who comes across this page.

On second thoughts, be my guest. Leave the current tripe in place, with it's lack of facts and misleading information.

Good day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NemesisRogue (talk • contribs) 20:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Any way you look at it, the current article, as of April 18, 2011, is bad. Biased claims with doubtful sources. Even if you're a fan of Glenn's guitar playing, the best thing you can do is write a true encyclopedic article: Factual, unbiased, with credible sources. "Credible sources" is not marketing schlock from some instruction book or liner notes. Even the guitar mags suffer from the same type of language, but at least the descriptions of playing style are usually in the ballpark.89.151.222.151 (talk) 22:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Disinterested passerby review
members.firstinter.net/markster/PROFILE2.html appears to be (a) a personal page from the URL, (b) dead. The Wayback Machine has a copy of it. Here's the quote that seems to be causing the current dispute:
 * "Glenn Tipton's highly structured, classically flavored playing and K.K. Downing's aggressive style compliment, contrast and compete with each other." - Bryan Reesman, METALOGY liner note, 2004

I know nothing about the subject, just looking in, but .. when someone says "classically flavored playing", and they're talking about Judas Priest metal stuff, what does classically mean, exactly? 70s? :) And how much weight should be given to a liner note? Surely there's some magazine articles out there on the net just waiting for a Google or two and a cite? Talk to each other, be WP:CIVIL AndroidCat (talk) 05:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I fixed up that Modern Guitars EL with a template. Why wasn't that used as a ref for classical influences rather than that dead personal site liner note? Sorry, NemesisRogue, but it really does look like his own words in that interview. AndroidCat (talk) 05:55, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually
All he said in that interview is that he was raised on classical music by his mother, on the piano, and that he likes classical music as well as film scores. That does not mean he is classically influenced.


 * ANY* cursory look at his music would show this. It's natural minor, diminished, blues and pentatonics - inc outside notes.

Furthermore, I have the book which dissects his tyle *AND* features his OWN interviews where he clearly defines that he was brought up on classical music through his mother but that he does NOT transpose that to the guitar. SO the interview that you linked backs up what I am saying. The book is judas Priest: Hell Bent for Lead Licks by Hal Leonard.

But you know what, forget it. I don't care anymore. I am dealing with morons. I have physical proof that can be verified by anyone getting hold of it - but you prefer internet sources that are ambiguous (like the link you provided). I have EARS and over 20 years as a pro guitarist but some uninterested and (probably) unknowing individual says that his solos are classically influenced. Imagine what that says to me?

And as said, I can't prove MY qualifications over the internet but I can point you all to sources that unequivocally back me up in my assessment. The book AND the interviews with Glenn confirm what I discovered myself. Yet you guys want to stick to a (supposed) interview that doesn't state clearly what he plays.

Knock yourself out but the point is, you're doing the internet and rock guitarists, not to mention Glenn Tipton, a major disservice. I tried, I really did. I threw down my indepth knowledge and backed it up with an official book but some moron out there (probably the one who wrote the incorrect article) refuses to acknowledge he was wrong and refuses to acknowledge my obvious command of both music and Glenn Tipton's playing style. That's his (and Wiki's) problem, not mine. I have done my bit. NemesisRogue (talk) 17:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Songwriting
How about at the very least a MENTION of his colossal and highly influential role as the main composer throughout Judas Priest's carreer?! The way this article goes down, someone who doesn't already know about the huge impact Tipton had as a songwriter would easily assume that he's "just" a guitarist.

The only Judas Priest album Tipton almost didn't contribute to in terms of songwriting is the debut, 1974's Rocka Rolla, as most of it was already written when he joined the band. Coincidentally, this is also both the less metallic and the less influential album ever released by the band (and by "less influential", I DO mean not influential whatsoever: Rocka Rolla is at best a blues rock album with a very subtle hard rock passing nod here and there).

As early as the second album Sad_Wings_of_Destiny, Tipton became the main songwriter, contributing to all songs and signing "The Ripper" on his own (one of the most influential metal songs of both the year 1976 and the band's carreer). This album happens to be considered a milestone in heavy metal music history wherever you look. And Tipton has been the main composer in the band eversince.

So, you know, it MIGHT be argued that Tipton should be described as a heavy metal SONGWRITER and guitarist. The most important part being the songwriting, not the guitar playing (although his soloing style did have a notable impact on the metal scene as well). I'm just saying.

TheLegendarySkel (talk) 14:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

similar to K.K downing
just wandering if anyone noticed kk downing and glenn tipton articals are very similar, don't they need to be changed because it seems that they were copied and changed to apply to the guitarist in question.

 SaiyanEmperor2008 (talk)  (Contribs)   19:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC) Dont you guys think, It;s a very short information about such a great guitarist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.140.182 (talk) 09:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Genres
As a single musician, maybe you should add all (or most) genres he was involved with. such as power metal from his solo career, thrash metal from priest's "Tim Ripper years", speed metal from Painkiller and Ram It Down and etc. 84.108.248.109 (talk) 18:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Technique
the article dass, Downing also incorporated sweep picking in his playing style. Did he? I would like to have an example. KhlavKhalash (talk) 08:56, 30 June 2023 (UTC)