Talk:Gnome

Donsy of Gnomes
The collective term for a group of gnomes is known as a Donsy. I have a reference - please don't take it down.

-I remember hearing that too. Devon, UK

Dwarves
How do Gnomes differ from Dwarfs? Well, although some people confuse the two, Gnomes are generally associated with small men with a mustache and beard and pointy hat - the classical Garden Gnome. Also there are "real life" dwarfs, and dwarfism, though there is no "Gnomism" (at least I don't think there is).

I think the most notable difference would be gnomes are smaller than dwarves, also I think gnomes are more kid like (apart from the beard) and dwarves are more adult like Booger-mike (talk) 22:23, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Gnomes in Popular Culture?
What business do the references to Wolfmother and Pink Floyd have being under 'In Folklore'. Surely they should be under a new section entitled 'Gnomes in popular culture' or not there at all?194.217.231.252 14:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

This seems to be en vogue atm - I just moved some references to Online Games and some youtube serial from the history to the Pop culture segment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.104.57.230 (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Gnome Deleted?
So I took the time to go out of my way and take pictures of a gnome so that it could be used on Wikipedia, and the picture was deleted? Thanks to whoever did that. Equilibrium 14:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * omg what a bastard64.40.60.42 20:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Next time, remember to give free permit to use your picture when you upload it. Goldenrowley 05:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Lawn Gnome picture?
I know that lawn gnomes are popular and all, but should a page on gnomes in general have a picture of a lawn gnome right at the top of the page? Couldn't we find a picture of a "real" gnome (that is, a mythological/literary gnome)?

Reported theory
Apologies, it's a bit vague; it's half-remembered. Brian Sewell, in his series on the Grand Tour, stated (half-jokingly?) that the garden gnome evolved from statues of Priapus. These statues with erect phalluses, put up in fields in the belief they would secure an abundant crop, turned over time into rods with painted red tops. These, again over time, turned into the red-hatted gnomes. Has anyone else heard this before? If so, it would be worth including.(JoeBlogsDord 23:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)) Yeah, and where do they live? Just underground. Where are they most seen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.141.140.19 (talk) 01:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

German term(en)
I have a vague recollection of an article in a forgotten journal citing a German catalogue from the nineteenth century offering "gnomenFigürchen". --Lil Miss Picky 01:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds quite right, as Altavista's Babel Fish gives "dwarf" as a translation for "Zwerg," and "Gnome" for "Gnome." V-Man - T/C 02:19, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

The garden gnome is called "Gartenzwerg" in Germany nowadays. I am mostly sure it was always called "Gartenzwerg" or - but rarely - "Gartenwichtel" but i cannot recall a "Gnomenfigürchen". I will check for an reference of "Gnomenfigürchen".

Roaming Gnome Blog
Last year I took my master on a trip around the United States. We took many pictures and I am slowly getting him to post these pics on my Yahoo 360 blog. You can view it at http://360.yahoo.com/profile-uy7rAEM8cq12GsdPhAdqKTLV?inv=mEivF.lj

Irrelevant sentence removed
h9There was no motivation for including the sentence "Rupert Sheldrake has written a good deal about morphogenic fields, an idea Terry Pratchett used in his Discworld books many times.", so I removed it. Harold f 02:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Ficticious books.
The first line mentions a ficticious book. Or is it a real book relating ficticious events. If it is a ficticious book, why mention it?

relevance of Gnomes without homes
Is http://www.gnomeswithouthomes.com/ really relevant? Maybe one can put it into the pop-culture section? JanCK 17:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

MSU What?
This link to Encylopedia Britannica contains a medieval woodcut of a gnome. I am submitting this link to be allowed to be a link under External Links. 64.136.48.205 12:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I checked out the above link and added it instead as the reference to the opening line in the article. It can now be found in the References section. Thanks. 5Q5 (talk) 23:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Adding a New Link
Hi, all.

Tom Parks here. I am relatively new to editing Wiki. I wanted to add a link to this page, but I saw the warning box. Is that something new, or is it standard for Wiki? What's the right way to add a link, please?

The link I want to add is this one: http://www.assassination-gnomes.com/

It's a cool free game, based on the classic rock/paper/scissors motif. In this case the gnomish assassins are sniper/bomber/ninja

It seems at least as valid as the Gnome Army link.

Thanks in advance for the help and support!

Tom —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom Parks (talk • contribs) 02:53, August 29, 2007 (UTC)


 * I visited the above game site and it doesn't seem encyclopedic enough for this article. However, it can be found on this talk page. Please note that all external links on Wikipedia are "nofollow" and posting them will not help get them in search engines. Talk pages are also not indexed. Thanks. 5Q5 (talk) 23:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Adding a new link
Hi guys,I'm also new at editing wikipedia,I have a site,that is all about gnomes, and i wanted to put the link on,but saw the warning link. I wan't to add this link.

http://www.freewebs.com/devinrutherford/

you may think it's just a stupid freewebs site, but its not It has tons of info on gnomes. Such as their culture,the way the build houses,their diffrent types and ethnicites.Of all the sites on Gnomes,this is the most complete site I have seen. It's a really big hit even with people who don't like gnomes,so please add it if its at all possible.

Ĥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heartagram3200 (talk • contribs) 19:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There was another link that went to a commercial site that had a lot of good information on garden gnomes and showed how they are traditionally made and also had some interesting facts on garden gnomes. I was able to google it up and am posting it here for those interested in garden gnomes.

http://www.zwerglignomes.com/

Thanks for the great site Wiki!!!!

Colibri1968 23:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to make a new post 'bout adding my site The Gnomes Tavern, to the links list. It provides valuable information about gnomes, and is to educate people who believe gnomes exist, or are just intrested and think they are cool. I have expanded alot more and there is a lot more info on the site. There is also a section based on other magical creatures that people often mistake gnomes for. Please add this...Thank you....

The link to the site is www.freewebs.com/devinrutherford —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.86.72 (talk) 23:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I checked out your site and in my view it meets a minimum encyclopedic standard for inclusion. Could use some enhancing by adding spaces between words where there are none. Please remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes ~ at the end of your comments. Thanks. 5Q5 (talk) 23:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Reference tag
I added some refs in the Folklore section, but more need to be added to the Garden Gnome section before the tag can be removed, IMO. Henitsirk 02:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Crisps
I removed reference to crisp in "names of gnomes in Europe" the name of a social cricket club in Sydny does'nt belong there. I question whether Crisp is appropriat at all in fact, but I'll leave that for others. WierdJohn 21:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Gnomes in other languages
''Although I agree that this list wasn't appropriate for the main article, this piece of information is still quite interesting. I will leave it here so that it is not lost.''

These are the names by which gnomes are commonly designated in different parts of Europe:

tmc 09:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Andorra — Gnom, Follet
 * Belgium — Gnoom, Kabouter
 * Bosnia and Herzegovina — Gnom, Patuljak
 * Brittany - Korrigan
 * Bulgaria — Гном
 * Croatia — Patuljak, Gnom, Polutan
 * Czech Republic — Skřítek
 * Denmark — Nisse
 * England — Gnome or Hob
 * Finland — Maahinen or menninkäinen
 * Germany — Gnom or Wichtel, though K(l)abauter is a known term as well. Gartenzwerg refers to a Garden Gnome
 * Greece — Gnomos, Gnomiko
 * Hungary — Manó
 * Iceland — Álfur or Dvergur
 * Ireland — Gnome, Goblin
 * Italy — Gnomo (in Salento it's called Scazzamurreddhu)
 * Latvia — Rūķis
 * Malta — Nanu
 * The Netherlands — Kabouter, Dwerg
 * Norway — Nisse
 * Poland — Krasnoludek, Skrzat, Gnom
 * Portugal — Gnomo, Duende
 * Romania - Gnom, Pitic
 * Russia — Гном (Gnom)
 * Serbia — Патуљак (Patuljak), Гном (Gnom), Полушан (Polušan)
 * Slovakia — Škriatok
 * Slovenia — Kepec, Gnom
 * Spain — Gnomo, Duende
 * Sweden — Tomtenisse, Hustomte, Tomte or Småtomte
 * Turkey — Cüce
 * Interesting list. I'd wager that a lot of these are actually considered seperate creatures by folklorists, though. — Brian ( talk ) 13:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

In Slovenia, more common names for gnome are škrat or palček (vrtni palček = garden gnome) Triglav 2000 (talk) 20:47, 7 November 2009 (UTC)etc. It really just undermines the integrity of Wikipedia as a serious encyclopedic reference. --Patriotic dissent (talk) 15:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Real-life sightings of alleged gnomes - videos, photos

 * Alive and well

Just saw this article in The Sun: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article902014.ece Perhaps we need to remove the word "mythical" from the first sentence? ;) - Pipatron (talk) 23:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

The reason I mention this, is a recent story by Fox News about a "gnome" sighting in Argentina.

I think we should have a section for Gnome Sightings.

ApsbaMd2 (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I added the above newspaper website link to External Links because it received international attention from being given a one-day link on the Drudge Report the same day, besides the Argentina and UK coverage. However, if it turns out to have been a pet monkey in a costume cruely wearing a body brace, then the link should be deleted. Regarding links by spammers, it doesn't do them any good because all external links are automatically "nofollow" and will not be crawled by search engines. 5Q5 (talk) 17:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's another link: "Cops [...] have launched a full-scale investigation - after records showed locals have reported seeing the creature for DECADES."  Here's what I don't get: "A local poll showed 90 per cent of General Guemes 30,000 residents believed gnomes stalked the streets at night."  Um, that seems like a pretty prevalent belief.  Is there some specific sort of folklore indigenous to that town? And why were those kids so afraid of it? Esn (talk) 04:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

A second version of the "Creepy Gnome Video" is on YouTube shot by the same group which shows evidence that a marionette (string puppet) was used, likely operated from the tree overhead. The strings are visible and they even shined a flashlight at the "gnome." Here is the video that made news and here is second video that didn't quite go as planned. Both of the vid postings are in Spanish, but curiously by two different posters, ostensibly. 5Q5 (talk) 22:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Update - "Creepy Gnome Video" 2nd video found - marionette hoax

I deleted that link to Sun, because the Sun is not the best source for news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.120.8 (talk) 20:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Can anybody please describe difference between gnome and dwarf.
--79.120.87.69 (talk) 08:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No. It's a matter of taste, and your imagination is as good as anyones imagination.  Said: Rursus   ☻   08:19, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, although some people confuse the two, Gnomes are generally associated with small men with a mustache and beard and pointy hat - the classical Garden Gnome. Also there are "real life" dwarfs, and dwarfism, though there is no "Gnomism" (at least I don't think there is). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.160.3 (talk) 04:26, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merger
I think the article Gnome sightings in Argentina should be merged into this article. The other article contains little information and is about news event of a particular time. Thus it will be good for the information to stay within the main article.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 08:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Eight days are over and no objection is raised. If no objection is raised, I will do the merge tomorrow.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 05:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

schwau?
What the heck is "schwau"? It does not seem to be a real English work. It should probably be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.225.114 (talk) 01:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Garden Gnome Split
Should the Garden Gnome section be split into a new page? I just stated working on fixing the different lawn ornament pages and this is the only one that is located within another page. I kind of feel it is like writing about the Plastic flamingo in the actual Flamingo page. --Found5dollar (talk) 15:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think so. I just stumbled onto this page looking for historical info on the traveling gnome prank, and was surprised to see Garden gnome redirected here. Gnomies and lawn ornaments are two very different things. __Just plain Bill (talk) 19:48, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Garden gnome would certainly have enough information to stand alone as a topic separate from [Gnomes]. It also doesn't seem quite right to me that the travelling gnome prank has its own page because I think of it as a narrower topic of garden gnomes (not a related topic to gnomes). I vote for making Garden Gnomes their own page, and moving the page about the prank to a Garden Gnome subsection. Also, I think that the Tomte/Nisse page should be merged with the Gnome page since they are technically interchangeable (as referred to in the picture on the top of the gnome page). Should I start a new topic about that? Blseaston (talk) 18:13, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

gnomes also are used to protect the garden. That is the main reason why they were created is to act as a scare crow and scare off pests.

External Link Addition and Hello
Hello, I am new here, but would like to contribute to editing this page and being part of the discussion. I have a pretty comprehensive blog about gnomes called Gnutty for Gnomes. It might be a good external link to add for people looking for more detailed information/anecdotes, etc. Even if it isn't added, I think it shows I know something about gnomes and validates why I want to contribute to this page and the discussions. Blseaston (talk) 17:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Gnome of Gerona addition
Hello. I thought that adding the capture of an alleged "gnome" in Spain in September 1989 would apply. --82.159.111.39 (talk) 21:54, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Nazi Gnomes
It might be interesting to add a snippet about the Nazi gnomes! For instance, this Time story: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1911626,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blake121666 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

What do you???
Good job!

One of the biggest producers of Garden Gnomes (www.zwergen-power.com) worldwide write here.

But one of the other users take any comment back.

Why? It give no reason for this action. This is not the real and good way to get good informations, isn´t it???

Kind regards, Andreas Klein —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreas Klein (talk • contribs) 23:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Contact or other advertising info cannot be included here. If the company is the largest producer of garden gnomes please provide a third party source that says so. -- Neil N    talk  ♦  contribs  23:45, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

fantasy gnomes
The gnomes treee house has a hidden entrance next to a tree. At the bottom of the stairs there is a trap for pests that come into the house only the gnome knows how to get around it. After a long hallway comes the house. The gnomes entrance is always facing north and the end of the underground house is south.The entrance starts in a tree. All the animals which have been trapped get burryed outside of the house. The gnomes use moles to dig sewage pipes for the house. Under another tree they use for storage for food. Hre the gnomes store grains,beans,seeds,potatoes, and nuts. These are indispensable during long cold winters.For breakfeast gnomes have: Mint Tea, Linden Blossom Tea, and Jasmen Tea to make gnome tea. The wife always prepares snaks fir the men gnomes. A hollowed acorn filled with tea and a bag of buiscuts is the usual. The buisuts are baked from grass seed and is a very filling meal. the saw mills have roof tiles of pinecone scales. The main meal that gnomes eat is hazel nuts, walnuts, beach nuts mushrooms, peas, beans, one small potatoe, all sorts of veggies, applescauce, fruit, berries of all kinds, and spices. for drinks weed dew, sqeezed razberries and gin. the gnome eats no meat he regularly partakes of the high protine plants. the desert is preserves. gnome houses and underground passages are lighted by candles and oil lamps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.51.18.29 (talk) 20:14, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

On editing wars and what is to be done
The history of this article is particularly chaotic, with periodic rewrites in which many people's constructive contributions are unceremoniously dumped, but little to no oversight to put a lid on editing wars and get the best out of everyone's ideas. This article needs watching.

On 7 December 2010, user 96.251.99.108 restored a very old version of this article, with no references or rationale provided, and nobody seemed to notice. Here is the version immediately prior to that restoration (hereinafter the replaced version), and here is the version immediately afterward (hereinafter the restored version). The current version as at 17 January 2011 is based on the restored version, which dates from much earlier in the article's history since when many editors have made constructive contributions that ought not to be destroyed in the crossfire between editing factions.

One can see the age of the restored version from the fact that it contains a lengthy section on garden gnomes. Since it was written, garden gnomes have been given an article of their own, which is why the replaced version includes only a brief mention with a pointer to the main article. One can also see advancements in the replaced version over the restored version in small details, for example the restored version uses the word taciturn, which is certainly not appropriate in an encyclopedia - one does not wish to make readers to reach for a dictionary more often than necessary. The replaced version uses the phrase very reluctant to interact with humans, which is far better.

These are two examples of ways in which the replaced version is an advancement on the restored version, but there are several others, for example in the subdivision of the history section. Compare them and see for yourself. This is a call for editors to compare the two versions and to make sensible decisions on what is to be done with them. In my opinion, the replaced version should, on the whole, be restored, though there may be aspects of the restored version that are worth incorporating.

202.22.172.168 (talk) 05:14, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I have fully reverted to the "replaced" version. I'm sorry I didn't noticed this tremendously old revert before now. The article had been extensively rewritten into a more encyclopedic tone due to numerous problems, notably lack of sources and significant recentism. The general "pop culture" section, which is also mostly recentism, has been replaced with the more encyclopedic literature section. The garden gnomes section was rightfully removed long ago, because there is now an entirely separate article on them. The whole Argentina section was completely inappropriate, not only because it is an example of recentism and undue weight, but is almost wholly supported by primary sources (youtube videos) and material other sources state is evidence of fakery. If folks can find bits an pieces that should be taken from the old version, that's fine, but there must not be any wholesale import of those older sections. — Huntster (t @ c) 11:02, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Parade section
The section listing the venues for several "gnome parades" presupposes a reader's knowledge of what such an event is. Is it a gay pride thing? A Soviet-style military review? Will I need to bring a Klan hood? Asat (talk) 10:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Paracelsus
This article now reads like Paracelsus invented the gnomes, but when reading the E. Britannica article that is cited as source it says he popularized them. I suggest a rewrite to reflect this. Comments? Vultureneck (talk) 16:19, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

What does an above ground cavern look like?
Could you tell me what types of caves don't exist underground? Leitmotiv (talk) 06:40, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of caves that are in mountains, but I guess that's still underground. Suppose I was mixing up sea level and "ground". I'll put it back.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 14:16, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Common misconception. I understand the need to clarify a cave's location so as not to confuse it with another cave. But since we are most likely talking in generalities, then there is no need for distinguishing from a hillside and at base level, say in a valley or field. Leitmotiv (talk) 17:42, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Christmas gnome like life
Skills for Christmas gnome like life year around world wide in the modern world learntalents.blogspot.com 2001:999:489:ACB7:6EFC:1259:725C:A4D1 (talk) 08:06, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Resurgence of gnome sightings "culture" in the 2020s
Seems to me like gnomes have been getting really popular these past few years - even the Mexican president claims to be in contact with them! I think it's mostly ironic/post-ironic internet memes, but I think it could warrant some sort of mention in the article. WDYT? Andro124 (talk) 13:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

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