Talk:Gnothi Seauton (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles)

Intimacy
It seems that the scene after the computer store when Cameron touches John's neck to be suggestive of both the empathy capabilities of her model and a possible future 'relationship'. It is implied later in the episode the John knew Cameron did not trip the motion sensor alarms because she was with him. (ColdFusion650 is correct on story flow) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott.kelley (talk • contribs) 20:59, January 20, 2008
 * Wow, that's completely in your mind. Nothing was actually implied. I've seen the episode several times, and that never even occurred to me. He knew it wasn't Cameron walking around because he knew that Sarah and Cameron had left (he may know it was to go to Enrique's house. he may not have known where they went). ColdFusion650 (talk) 03:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. But I call on-screen hand-holding by mid-season.  --Scott.kelley (talk) 08:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm curious as to why the trivia section is being deleted. I'll agree that the guidelines on trivia state that these sections are to be avoided. However, it also specifically states that these sections are not to be deleted outright. Instead, they are to be worked into the prose of the rest of the article, if possible. For now, perhaps tossing in the trivia cleanup template would be a good idea instead? MicahWedemeyer (talk) 19:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

trivia cleanup tag seems like the way to go. unfortunately there are a lot of haters on wikipedia who take the lazy option and immediately delete instead of rephrase or ask for citations and then later delete if none are provided. keep reverting and complain about the trigger happy deletionists if you have to before they kill wikipedia. wikipedia would never gotten this far if people had been so trigger-happy about deletions. hard to believe they are not trolls in disguise. good luck -- Horkana (talk) 17:41, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There are a lot of haters on Wikipedia, and from your above comment, it's obvious who they are. ColdFusion650 (talk) 19:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

So when John leaves the computer store, the store door number is 1337, a reference to Leet. I think that this should be in the article somewhere, apparently others don't....ideas/thoughts? edit: Apparently this was in the trivia section but that got deleted, tried to add in synopsis but apparently you didn't think it should go there, ColdFusion....why not? Mikef777 (talk) 03:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not important. It's trivial. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminant collection of information. If the word Leet or the letters 1337 become somehow important to the show later on, we can come back and add it here. But at this point, there's no reason to have it. ColdFusion650 (talk) 12:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Terminator skull
A major role in the episode is given to the skull of the Terminator having teleported in the future. In the episode it re-activates the rest of the skeleton, which is guided to its location by the skull itself until the two parts are rejoined. However, this forms a stark contrast with the driving assumption of the Terminator series, i.e. the fact that only living tissue (or mimetic poly-alloy) can survive time travel. This assumption had prevented Reese in The Terminator from carrying advanced weaponry. While it is true that experimental models, such as the T-1000 and T-X need not organic covers, the android shown in the episode is quite obviously a standard model so its bare skull shouldn't have been able to reach the future.

Servicenotincluded (talk) 21:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Servicenotincluded


 * Interesting point, but the Terminator's flesh was intact (despite being damaged) when it opened the bank vault. Perhaps he was sufficiently intact when he was encapsulated by the time machine's field, and moments after was damaged by Sarah's gun. Can you tell if he was definitely outside the field?  Suffice to say I don't think this show has strived for consistency and plausibility so far (bigger question: why on earth is Cromartie such a poor marksman???). But if you find plot holes you might consider if Wikipedia, as a general purpose encylopedia, is the best place to discuss them, as opposed to the many fanzines out there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.152.245.18 (talk) 21:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Plot Section
The Plot section currently states "When Charley comes closer John, afraid that he may be a disguised Terminator, attacks him and flees." I watched this episode yesterday and I don't think that there's any suggestion that John believes Charley is a Terminator —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.206.146.123 (talk) 13:55, 29 November 2010 (UTC)