Talk:Godolphin Arabian

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I wonder where the information comes from that the Godolphin Arabian was bred in Yemen. Several web sites cite that he was a gift from the Bey of Tunis ... not, I think, directly to the French King, but to someone else in his court. By several accounts, he was referred to as the "Barb", which I presume means he came from the Barbary Coast ... again, Morocco.

A delightful children's book, King of the Wind, reports the story of the Godolphin Arabian (following a partly-fictionalized account published in France, but available now in English, in the mid-1800s, by a man named Eugene Sue. The author of King of the Wind was Marguerite Henry, who also authored Misty of Chincoteague (about a real pony on that island in America), and Born to Trot (about Rosalind, a champion pacer).  King of the Wind adds a sympathetic deaf-mute groom, who travels with "Sham" from Morocco through his many tribulations in France and England, before he became famous.

Marilyn Justman mjustman@ricis.com

King Of The Wind
The Godolphin Arabian is also in the book King Of The Wind, author-Margueritte Henry.

Edward Coke
Wrong Edward. Xx236 14:01, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The article presently reads "The horse was imported from France by Mr Edward Coke (created Earl of Leicester 1744) and sent to his stud at Longford Hall, Derbyshire where he remained until the death of his owner in 1733". The Mr Coke created Earl of Leicester in 1744 was Thomas Coke, not Edward, and he died in 1759. His son, Viscount Coke, was named Edward; he died in 1753. Which was the owner of the horse? Opera hat (talk) 16:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not certain, you are correct that the dates don't match up if the Coke who owned the horse died in 1733. I don't know if Lady Wentworth's book clarifies it, and the only other source I have is "King of the Wind," which is, of course, fiction.   Maybe Ealdgyth knows... I'll ask. Montanabw (talk) 01:49, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I have Miller/Milner's bio of the horse, I'll look it up shortly after din-din. I also have the Complete Peerage, which i can use to double check things. Ealdgyth - Talk 01:54, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, you eat fast! LOL!  Montanabw (talk) 02:16, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Milner's bio says that he "was sold to Edward Coke, the proprietor of St Jame's Coffee House, for his stud at Longford Hall in Derbyshire." Later "In 1733 Mr Coke died and bequeathed his mares to the second Earl of Godolphin, who then bought Sham from Roger Williams, who had inherited the stallions of the stud.". So it appears the bit about the "created Earl of Leicester" is wrong and can be removed, which I shall do momentarily. Ealdgyth - Talk 02:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The article on Longford Hall, Derbyshire has a link to a history of the parish of Longford. This says that on the death of Sir Edward Coke, 3rd Baronet in 1727, Longford was inherited by his relative Edward Coke (d. 1733), brother of the Thomas Coke who was created Earl of Leicester in 1744. Sir Edward Coke was son of Sir John Coke, 1st Baronet, son of Clement Coke, son of Sir Edward Coke (author of Institutes of the Lawes of England), who was also father of Henry Coke, father of Richard Coke, father of Robert Coke, father of Edward Coke, father of the Edward Coke who inherited Longford and was the owner of the horse in question. So there we go! Opera hat (talk) 10:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll let the two of you sort this out. I'm not much of one for Coke.  Or Pepsi for that matter.  More like 7-Up for me!  LOL!   Montanabw (talk) 19:50, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh. However the links work out is fine with me. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I was in a goodwill store Oct. 25 2011 and paid for seven prints and one was this Babraham and this owner.
And another gentleman and another horse the print is Mar. 10 1750. So I was trying to find out if it is at any value. My number is 828-684-1420 e-mail is emoyd@bellsouth.net my name is Sandra Emory. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.94.191.214 (talk) 18:57, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Hog-Magog
"Hog-Magog, Cambridgeshire" is nonsense, though charming. I believe they are called the Gog Magog Hills. I made the change (talk) 07:02, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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