Talk:Gold-filled jewelry

"Gold-plated" or "gold plated" and GF vs Gilding
This article originally had "gold-plated", with a hyphen. When I went to add the wiki link to the gold plated article I found it was "gold plated", without a hyphen. I think the no-hyphen spelling is correct but I'm far from an expert on this so I didn't mark the page as a minor edit and am hoping that wiser people than I can make the final call. Should it need a hyphen then there should probably be a complete search through the wikipedia to make all spellings consistent. Perhaps even if no-hyphen is agreed correct then a search for consistency should be done? Once again I'll leave the decision (and, the work, of course :-) to others. Neilbaby1 22:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ahh - I now see that there is another problem. The gold plated article says that mechanical bonding of gold is called gilding while this page clearly defines gold filling as a chemical bond of gold. Once again, someone who knows more on this subject than I should either update one or both of the articles so that they are consistent. I suspect both gold filling and gilding are correct terms and the pages need to say that there "gold filling or gilding" or something like that. Once again, I'm not an expert, just a nitpicker. Neilbaby1 22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Gold Filled (at least in the old days) means that a fairly thick layer of gold would be fused to both sides of a piece of metal (usually a brass composition) and then the piece would be worked into finished form. How ever the process the result is that high quality gold filled jewelry has a heavy outer layer that will stand quite a bit of wear. It will last much longer than typical gold plating. -Saxophobia 00:38, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

re: hyphens. My understanding is that when the words precede a noun ("This is a gold-filled ring."), they get a hyphen. And when they stand alone ("This ring is gold filled."), there is no hyphen. I have seen examples where this does prevent confusion.

I removed this: "Some items understandably wear quickly because they are only coated with a few micrometres of gold while other more expensive pieces containing more gold can last years with light wear." because "micrometres" doesn't sound quite right for GF. It sounds correct for gold plate which is 0.001 to 0.000001" thick. (Heavy gold electroplate is a bit thicker than that.) I didn't clarify the chemical bond sentence, because I don't fully understand it. I know that heat and pressure are used to do the bonding, and the layers slightly combine, into – here's where I get confused – what I believe becomes a chemical bond. (i.e., it's not just a slayer slapped on – it can't peel off.) Beadalicious 06:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I added some more detail about GF vs RGP and the various qualities of GF.

RE GF vs Gilding: Part of the traditional definition of Gold Filled is that the gold layer is applied with heat and pressure in such a way that a welded diffusion layer is produced, perhaps one could consider that the two metals form a layer of alloy? My favorite description of how GF is made is at. I should include that industry reference in the main text. RussNobbs (talk) 20:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Image
The addition of the GoldFilledJewellery.png‎ illustration is very helpful to this article. However, in the USA, it is more common to see 10Kt, 12Kt, or 14Kt gold filled rather than 9Kt, 14Kt, and 18Kt as shown in this illustration. -RussNobbs (talk) 19:56, 28 March 2011 (UTC)RussNobbs

Deceptive little term
I've almost-always known that "gold-filled" is a misleading term that "the industry" uses as if trying to deceive people into thinking they are getting solid gold. Its real meaning (gold-plated) is common knowledge, but it is usually divulged on the side, by one's elders, as a warning not to be fooled. "Gold-filled" articles are NOT "filled" with gold; that's only what you think unless you have been informed that the words don't mean what they say. Attempting to justify the term, I could think of a "gold-filled" article as a thin gold surface or skin that has been "filled" with copper – but NO ONE in real life would EVER call it that, because NO ONE makes a hollow thin-walled gold object and then "fills" it with copper. "Gold-filled" articles start as copper pieces which are then plated (or coated or maybe "overlaid") with gold. By continuing to say "gold-filled", "the industry" mostly makes itself appear intentionally dishonest (and maybe gains a few sales). An honest term would be "gold-plated". But you keep reading and hearing "gold-filled" in ads, along with that other contentious trick word used by "the industry", "faux" ("faux pearl", "faux diamond"). In print, perhaps an important comma got lost – "gold-filled" articles could honestly be described as "gold, filled", but English puts the adjective first, so it would have to be "filled gold" - gold that is "filled" with something cheaper. But few vendors or marketers dare to STOP using the legal near-lie "gold-filled" because no one will make their competitors stop saying it. It's time for "the industry" or its regulators to do "the industry", its customers, and the language a favor by outlawing this term. (Citation is needed for controversy over the term "gold-filled"; otherwise I would put it directly into the article.) -A876 (talk) 19:29, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Why can't be it called Gold-coated jewellery? DRAGON BOOSTER   ★  15:15, 11 January 2023 (UTC).

Thickness
The most important piece of information is missing. What is its thickness? We need to see a comparison with the thickness of other methods. 109.144.215.33 (talk) 22:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)