Talk:Gollum/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 20:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for taking this one on. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:43, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Criteria
1. Prose ✅

2. Verifiability ✅

3. Depth of Coverage ✅

4. Neutral ✅

5. Stable ✅

6. Illustrations ✅

7. Miscellaneous ✅

Comments
1.
 * "in Rider Haggard's" - Is he commonly referred to as Rider Haggard? In the States, I've always seen his name as H. Rider Haggard
 * In the UK always.


 * This is only indirectly related to this article, but the piped link to Goblin Town goes to the Moria article, while it's really more connected to the Misty Mountains. This may be worth fixing.
 * Fixed. However MM needs to redirect to Geography of Middle-earth, possibly by extending the target SLIGHTLY, if you'd care to take a look at that.


 * Wikilink the One Ring at the first mention in the prose body, it's linked later in there
 * Done.


 * Bilbo is a duplink
 * Gone.


 * To those who aren't familiar with Tolkien's works, "the Dark Lord of Mordor" wouldn't be easily equatable with Sauron
 * Fixed.


 * Emyn Muil is a duplink
 * Gone.


 * Wood Elves and Elvish redirect to the same article, probably don't need the Elvish link
 * Gone.


 * "Gollum swore by the "precious" itself," - Unless I missed something, it hasn't been strongly established that the precious is the Ring
 * Fixed.


 * "the giant spider Shelob" - It's already been established who Shelob is, so I don't think the qualifier is necessary
 * Gone.


 * Orcs is a duplink (Orcs twice, I have no problem with the additional link to goblins, given the ambiguity in naming)
 * Gone.


 * "In the first edition of The Hobbit Tolkien" - Comma after Hobbit, and the book title is a duplink
 * Fixed.


 * Shelob is a duplink
 * Gone.


 * The Two Towers is a duplink
 * Gone.


 * Frodo and Sam are duplinks
 * Gone.


 * Elf is a duplink
 * Gone.


 * Hobbits is sometimes capitalized and sometimes not, this should be consistent
 * Fixed.


 * The Ring and hobbits are duplinks
 * Gone.


 * Gandalf is a duplink
 * Gone.


 * Eru Iluvatar is a duplink
 * Gone.


 * Sauron is a duplink
 * Gone.


 * Link the Dead Marshes
 * Done.


 * "Despite Tolkien's description,[8]" and the paragraph ends with that. Either finish the sentence off or delete the fragment
 * Removed.

More
2.
 * "In The Fellowship of the Ring, Aragorn states that "his malice gives him a strength hardly to be imagined."[citation needed]" - Citation needed
 * Added.


 * " In The Two Towers, Gollum's grip is described as "soft, but horribly strong" as he wrestles with Sam.[T 9]" - The ref is to the Return of the King ...
 * Fixed, see next.


 * " In The Two Towers, Sam bound Gollum's neck with Elven rope, which caused Gollum excruciating pain by its mere presence.[T 9]" - Again, the ref is actually to ROTK. If I remember right, this passage is actually in the Two Towers, so it appears to be a ref error
 * Fixed ref.


 * Is the Encyclopedia of Arda an RS? It says "copyright Mark Fisher" at the bottom, so it's likely a personal website
 * Fisher is a well-known Tolkien source.


 * IMDB is generally not considered to be a reliable source, as it's user-generated
 * Replaced refs.


 * Ref 36 is a self-sourced popular culture reference, these are generally not considered to be sufficient for refs or demonstrating noteworthiness.
 * Removed.


 * Does ref 26 really indicate that it's on the DVD like claimed?
 * Removed as unencyclopedic.


 * The information given for ref 30 (Total film) and the results of what comes up when I click on it don't seem to match
 * Replaced ref.


 * Ref 31 appears to have been domain hijacked
 * Replaced ref.

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6.
 * There's four fair-use images used in this one, how well do you think this fits with the minimal use requirement of WP:NFCC?
 * I think we're ok. The article is long relative to the number of illustrations, and they each make a specific point, namely how the artists/filmmakers involved visualised the character (extremely differently). It would plainly be impossible to give such an impression in words.

7.
 * Lead could use something from the first three paragraphs of the significance section
 * Added.

There's some ref work that needs done on this one, mostly related to the film/pop culture section. Hog Farm (talk) 03:57, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * All done to date.
 * That's it I think, passing. Hog Farm (talk) 15:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC)