Talk:Golok conflicts (1917–1949)

Small edits to improve internal consistancy and readability
Changed "Muslim" to "Hui": Religious beliefs or practices are not mentioned in the article and Muslim appears to be used in an ethnic sense (e.g. not Han, not Tibetan, not Mongol) rather than a religious one.

Removed "Ma was highly anti-communist". This does not appear to be relevant to the article at all. It especially does not appear that he "wiped out many Tibetans" because of his anti-communist beliefs, or that the Tibetans he killed were mostly communists.

Made a couple minor edits described in the edit summary.Wikimedes (talk) 22:27, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Changing importance from top to mid in WPCHINA and WPTIBET
I think that this topic is of importance primarily to historians and not many people outside of China have even heard of it.

I’m also lowering the quality rating while I’m here. It does not look like the article went through any open review to get its B rating (not that that’s required) and even after recent improvements it still has some issues with structure and coverage. It still looks a bit like a bunch of thrown-together criticisms of the Mas and their armies. Even without knowing much about the topic, reading the article suggests some areas where it needs to be fleshed out: What made the war against the Ngoloks genocidal? What parts of Sharia law were applied during Ma Bufeng’s “Islamic Kuomintang rule” (if none, the word “Islamic” should probably be removed from the phrase.) How did Ma “eliminate racism” (the rest of the article seems to suggest that he inflamed racism.)  Chiang threatened Tibetans if they did not comply with what?Wikimedes (talk) 14:53, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Ngoloks
The word "ngolok" was must be added before every instance of the word "tibetan", because there were two types of Tibetans in qinghai- "civilized" tibetans living a sedentary lifestyle and the nomadic, tribal, "wild "ngoloks". The Ma Bufang article makes ti look as if he was anti buddhist and anti tibetan. While he can hardly be described as a benevolent kind ruler, the type of warfare he waged against the ngoloks was akin to the Indian wars in the United States, putting peaceful tribes like the cherokee on reservations while waging massacres and unrestricted warfare against tribes who refused to submit to American government control. The frontier where the ngoloks lived was like the American west, with no government. The Ngoloks were as vicious when fighting back like the american indians against the US army who scalped and tortured captured soldiers, it shouldn't be portrayed as Ma Bufang suddenly going on rampages against the prdinary tibetans in qinghai, he was specifically only fighting tibetan tribals like the ngoloks who lived on the frontier.

And this article should be renamed to "ngolok rebellions" or "pacification of ngoloks"Rajmaan (talk) 19:05, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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Title POV
I failed to see how the article is describing "rebellions" as suggested by title when the article say it was never conquered by the Ma Army before the start of this series of event.C933103 (talk) 19:30, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Isn't Title lacking neutrality also a POV problem? Although I am not sure what better title could it be. C933103 (talk) 13:50, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * In general, you should be bold and just try to adjust the article instead of putting up templates. I agree that the title is a misnomer, so I will simply move it to "Golok conflicts (1917–1949)". That should be more neutral. Applodion (talk) 16:00, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm wondering if there are any more neutral term with established use by historian or outsiders at the time to describe this series of conflict, which I failed to find relevant information. C933103 (talk) 20:31, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I would recomend that if you find a better title, perhaps even one used by academia, you just change the article's title to that one. The current name is still a placeholder, after all, so there is no problem with changing it again. Applodion (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

I see, thanks for your input. C933103 (talk) 23:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)