Talk:Gomphus clavatus

Pre FAC tinkering...
"In the 18th and 19th centuries, G. clavatus was the type species—and only recognized member—of the genus Gomphus." - actually I am not sure this is true as for much of the time it was also placed in Cantharellus. , maybe this sentence should be removed? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

NB: Given this has already passed GA, might be a good one to punt next through FAC, after some massaging. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, will move this to the top of my active pile. Will get back to you on the above after I reacquaint myself with the literature. Sasata (talk) 16:34, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I am in two minds about adding a fact - the 1947 Chanterelle monograph by Smith -it goes into detail about the reaction to KOH by this species and Pseudocraterellus pseudoclavatus. I wasn't sure how much detail to go in as pretty esoteric. Wanna take a look and opine? I can email the monograph but suspect you have access already to it. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:59, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, I think a sentence or two would be ok; KOH is a common chemical and its use in the field is not so uncommon (I carry a bottle with me on hunting expeditions). I have a little more to add from my books, and intend to go through this list of older literature to see if there's any interesting tidbits to add. Should be done by tomorrow, then I think we're off to the races. Sasata (talk) 20:33, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok cool! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:12, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Right, the article says the hymenium turns "dull orange to orange-brown when revived in KOH", the gill trama near the subhymenium turns yellow but fades, and the pileus has a layer of cells that turn brown with KOH, contrasting sharply with the cells of the flesh proper, which do not stain - this is in contrast with with P. pseudoclavatus, which is written, "The color reaction in KOH of the basidia and subhymenium is merely sordid yellowish to brownish and not very distinctive. The colored zone is not sharply delimited as in C.clavatus, and to this extent as well as in the darker reaction of the basidia of the latter, the KOH reaction is an aid to their recognition" Anyway, not sure where to insert this and happy to leave it up to you. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:23, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Just a note to let you know this is still on my mind ... the taxonomy section will need some work (e.g. see IF's synonymy, which has some names not accounted for here). Will probably end up moving some or most of that synonyms list to the article from the taxobox, similar to what we did in Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca. But I'm going to be distracted with other fungi for a bit :) Sasata (talk) 19:50, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough/no dramas - one critical ingredient for any of these articles is enthusiasm and a way forward..sometimes it's there and sometimes it just ain't. In any case, I might have a look at a few of the synonyms. I have become more interested in landscaping my garden so have been doing some more plant stuff lately. But collaborations are always good - if you are interested in buffing any of the bigger ones or ones I've worked on in the past let me know about collaborating. cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:45, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I have added more info on synonyms...though I have no idea where Schmidel's original Clavaria truncata is from. Also confused about Kummer's use of Thelephora, which seems to predate the official authority...? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:08, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Nice work on expanding the taxonomy section. It is pretty large, so would be nice to put a historical image in there somewhere to break up the wall of text. I'm travelling now and won't be able to do any serious research until next week.


 * Other things:
 * lead is too short, does not summarize the taxo section
 * similar species is sparse too; would be good to add specifically how Gomphus crassipes differs microscopically if we can find that
 * does not indicate that this is the type species of Gomphus. Sasata (talk) 19:49, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Cool, some stuff to go on....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:10, 19 April 2016 (UTC) added the material. Will look for an image now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, what you reckon now....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:40, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

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