Talk:Gondola

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tail fins on the gondola?
can somebody explain symbolism of the tail fins on the gondola? Taco325i 01:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC) Anybody??? -Taco325i 18:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

"Established Prices?"
What's this nonsense about 'established prices?' Every time I am in venice, I see the gondoliers ripping off the more gullible tourists and negotiating with the thriftier ones. This whole article reads like a press release as the 'guild' and everything else are written about too favorably. The overall impression from tourists (of which a quick internet scan will confirm) is that the trip is an overpriced ripoff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.44.223.44 (talk) 11:29, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Need of quotation - law binding requirement to be born in Venecia...
"It is also worth noting that a gondolier, under Venetian law, must have been born in Venice to practice the profession."

I think this sentence needs quotation. Is there really any law that would say that gondollier needs to be born Venecian?

I agree since recently Alexander Hai was allowed to finally be a gondolier to a local Venice hotel. I'm unable to find any truth to what they call their "Gondolier Guild," which makes me disbelieve this theory or practice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.5.237.66 (talk) 22:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Italy is a member of the EU. Even if Venice ever had such a by-law, it is null and void now due to EU anti-discrimination laws.
 * On the other hand, do they allow women to serve as gondoliers? Theoretically, if the gondola guild is able to prove sculling is physically too much demanding job for a female, they could legally restrict the occupation for males only. (Here in Hungary, an EU member as well, women are not allowed to be firefighters, because law bans women from any job where lifting more than 25 kilos is required). 91.83.18.109 (talk) 17:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Eternal Love
What does Eternal Love in all-caps and italics mean? Something other than that the couple's love will last a long time? The caps and itals suggest something else.


 * "Venetian tradition dictates that couples must kiss under every bridge for Eternal Love."

76.116.212.2 (talk) 14:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think all it means is that the IP editor who added it felt like putting it in caps and italics. I'm changing it now. MorganaFiolett (talk) 14:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Sandolo
Is no one on en Wiki at all interested in the lovely venetian boat called sandolo? There seems to be no mention of it anywhere. Incredible!
 * For reference, see the only picture I could find on Commons. B. Jankuloski (talk) 06:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have started the article Sandolo. Moonraker2 (talk) 06:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Accents on Italian words
Are the Italian words used in this article Italian or Venetian? If they are Venetian, I can't comment, but if they are Italian, they should not have accents on them. Accents are shown over e and o in some Italian dictionaries to indicate whether these vowels are closed or open but are there merely as guides to pronunciation. When the words are used, the accents do not appear, unlike, say, in French. (Accents are used however to distinguish homographs or to show that a final syllable is stressed, but neither of these is the case here.) &mdash; Paul G (talk) 07:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction
The lead section says the vessel is punted around; the "History" section specifically rules this out. Any regular contributor feel confident to fix?

--217.155.32.221 (talk) 09:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

The lead section is wrong - the boats are propelled by single-oar sculling. I'll put in the link to the Wikipedia 'sculling' entry once I get a moment. Or perhaps someone else could do it. RDT2 (talk) 15:21, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * "Punted" now removed and Sculling added. Ref extended (thanks to Google translate). Sorry it took so long! --217.155.32.221 (talk) 08:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

New content about Alex Hai
OK, this content is suitable and there is a full Wikipedia article about Alex Hai. But Hai is only incidental to an article about gondolas so I condensed it and clarified the change to transgender. Hai was a woman initially, by his own admission about working in the body of a woman. He has not publicized the date of the change but announced it in 2017. I removed some unnecessary citations including one that led to a Subscription Only web page.

Also, I think the content added about Hai was pulled from the article about him so the citations were not quite right. In any event, the citations that still remain should be fine now and they confirm all aspects of the content about Boscolo and about Hai. Peter K Burian (talk) 01:56, 27 June 2017 (UTC)


 * P.S. Initially, I referred to Hai as a gondolier as some 2017 articles do, but the 2007 articles I found seem to suggest that one is not a gondolier in Venice until passing certain tests and being licensed. Hai has not done so. Hence, I revised the content to refer to him as a gondola operator. Also see http://www.explore-italian-culture.com/gondola-driver.html

Peter K Burian (talk) 02:33, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Horror film: Don’t Look Now
Don’t Look Now (1973) plays in Venice.

Its German title reads "Wenn die Gondeln Trauer tragen" (= When gondolas are wearing grief)

In the film happens a ride with a mourning or funeral (?) gondola (ge: Trauergondel).

--Helium4 (talk) 20:38, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

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