Talk:Gondor/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 16:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC) Many thanks for taking this on. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:26, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the responses . I hadn't quite finished going through the article earlier, and just have a few further points:


 * Concept and Creation: "led to the Kin-strife and introduced the regency of Rómendacil II" - might be worth adding a little elaboration here (or some linking) as this is the first time that the phrase Kin-strife appears in the article.
 * It just means civil war, so have called it that now.


 * Adaptations: Consider renaming section, as only one adaptation is discussed.
 * Renamed to 'In film'.


 * Adaptations: "compared to the Byzantine Empire, for numerous reasons" - I think the phrase "for numerous reasons" could be deleted, unless the extended DVD source supports this, in which case maybe it could be added into a version of the following sentence.
 * Cut.


 * Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to promote this to GA. Thanks for all your work, and well done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I'll be looking to claim points for the 2020 WikiCup for this review. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Review Comments
 * Picture caption: "Gondor (red) within Middle-earth, T.A. 3019" - I suggest linking "T.A." to the Third Age article.
 * Done.


 * Númenórean kingdom: "drowning of Númenor" and "Sauron survived the destruction of Númenor" - consider adding a brief summary about the drowning/destruction here, or maybe a link to the relevant part of the Númenor or Sauron article.
 * Good point. Linked.


 * Third Age, under the Stewards: This section doesn't seem to read as smoothly as the others. It might be because there are some consecutive relatively short sentences here, so I suggest considering whether some could be combined or expanded.
 * I've done a bit of copy-editing, hope it's to your liking.


 * Third Age, under the Stewards: I don't know if there is a main reason how "Gondor became very rich" - if there is, then consider adding it.
 * None that I've read; basically Tolkien just wanted to paint a picture of a well-developed civilisation. It's already compared by a scholar to Byzantine Civilisation in the article.


 * War of the Ring and restoration: Part of this seems to be written in a different tense to the other historical sections. (e.g. words like sends/attends/suggests rather than wordslike were/landed/brought) This may be my personal reading, or deliberate, so I don't have a specific recommendation other than re-reading and amending if appropriate.
 * Well spotted! Fixed.


 * War of the Ring and restoration: like the Third age section, this doesn't flow quite as well as other parts of the article, consider some rewriting.
 * Again, I've copy-edited it, hope it's more to your liking now.


 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):  (Note: I checked both results showing above 0% on Earwig's Copyvio Detector, and the only shared phrases are titles. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC))
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail: